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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I work in secondary education. I know a white girl who got into an Ivy for soccer the summer after 9th grade. She's no genius. I also have a black football player who has offers from a few Ivies and he's a nice kid, but a legit idiot.[/quote]

Wait, how is this new info?

To the OP, someone actually does get in.  URM, athlete, legacy are hooks we would all LOVE to have.

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I just wonder where a top Ivy can hide dummy athletes? I don't think any Ivies have remedial coursework like public Us offer. And a football player at an Ivy isn't leaving early to go pro, they have to hide these kids in classes for the full 4 years.

And the 9th grader getting into an Ivy two years before coach or admissions sees her SAT? Explain THAT.[/quote]

Ugh, I've been to Ivies and Ivy-similar schools, and they don't really bother to hide the dummies.  Everyone knows who they are.  And, yes, they are lowering their standards for athletes and kids whose parents give a lot of money.  One of the saddest situations I saw was at a top Ivy, and a girl whose father was very rich and not a celebrity himself, but very connected within the celebrity world .... this woman was dumb as rocks and stood out like a sore thumb.  People made fun of her behind her back, and I assumed they were just being jerks.  Then I had to work with her on an assignment, and realized that, while they were being jerks, they were also correct about her capabilities. [/quote]

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