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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]@Anonymous at 11:09am

I hear you on test prep but I just googled Thomson and it is apparently an IB primary years school. (The only one in DC...?) Can't just be drill/kill all day I imagine?

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Exactly, and they have Chinese and Spanish.  So many of the downtown parents are driving their kids to white charters all over the city - with a great school right there.  So...what does that say about these liberated downtown parents?[/quote]

From what I have heard from "liberated families" is they don't want to put up with the behavioral problems (foul language, unpleasant home life that gets discussed, etc). There is also a fear that their child will get picked on or become a target of anger. I am reporting this but do not agree with these statements, just so we are clear. They don't want anything to interfere with their child's learning.[/quote]

So there are no behavioral problems in schools with lots of white kids?[/quote]

No...  but the behavioral problem quotient demonstratively diminishes when the caucasian/asian increases.

As a percentage of the whole.

As in - the school is better with more of them; and worse when there are fewer of them.

Math is brutal.   :roll: [/quote]

and THIS is why we can't have gifted or magnet schools in DCPS folks. Actual overt racism. [/quote]

Are you saying that it's racist to tell the truth?[/quote]

Has little to do with race and everything to do with poverty.

From today's [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/even-in-a-prosperous-city-like-dc-many-still-go-hungry-report-finds/2017/09/19/6601d938-9d55-11e7-9083-fbfddf6804c2_story.html]Post[/url]:

[quote]“I would see kids headed to school with orange fingers and orange tongues,” she recalled. “Those were indicators of Cheetos and Fanta soda for breakfast.”

She recalled that some federal food-subsidy programs lasted only two weeks and that teachers could often tell when it ended. “Around the third and fourth week of the month, you’d have students starting to act up in class. In some schools, those students might be referred to a special-education program. But the problem was that they were hungry.”[/quote]

What I've always found odd is that advocates for the poor spend so much time writing about how poverty is a bad thing. How hunger makes poor kids act up in school. How unstable home lives end up causing instability in the classroom. How high-poverty schools are dysfunctional, wracked with violence. All just blocks from the White House.

Then turn on a dime and accuse middle-class parents of being racist because that's the only possible reason they wouldn't send their kid to a school with a large at-risk population. I thought poverty was bad? If not, why on Earth are we spending billions of dollars to fight it?[/quote]

About once a week you see articles like this in the [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/when-a-dc-school-closed-for-renovations-parents-faced-a-troubling-choice/2017/07/04/88c94334-5773-11e7-ba90-f5875b7d1876_story.html]Post[/url]:

[quote]The parents are scared for their children — and for themselves. Simple City is nearby, but it’s a destination they’ve always been careful to avoid. Likewise, residents of Simple City steer clear of 37th and other areas with ongoing turf battles. Navigating perceived no-go zones is part of the daily routine for many residents in the poorest parts of the District.

[...]To quell worries, school and police officials say they have met often with parents and community members to share busing and security plans. But the history here is deep, and decades of disputes and turf wars won’t disappear easily — even if many who live in the area say they no longer know what the beefs are about.[/quote]

These are the parents of elementary school kids, by the way, talking about how they won't send their kids to an elementary school a few blocks further away, because of the decades-long violent feuding between their no-name flyspeck neighborhood and the adjacent no-name flyspeck neighborhood.

Now it's possible this is all ginned up pseudo-drama by people with too much time on their hands. Or it's possible that beefs going back decades make it unsafe for you to send your 8 year old to a school a few blocks out of their neighborhood. Not sure I want my kid to be the test case though.

You know who's got time for that nonsense? Nobody in their right mind.[/quote]

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