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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's way past-time to end race based affirmative action, and in time the Supreme Court will end it. If you're going to have a preference, have it be socio-economic. The latter would obviously benefit a lot of socio-economically disadvantaged blacks and Hispanics. But please explain why the African-American, private school offspring of a Big Law partner or surgeon should get a "URM" preference in college admissions over the kid of an Asian dishwasher or of a white unemployed coal miner. Makes no sense at all.[/quote] It makes no sense because this is not what happens. Idiots. All of those groups you listed get preferences in admission especially with schools that take a holistic approach. It's not the URM over others. If you want to end affirmative action - you need to end all hooks and preferences - legacies and athletes in particular. You idiots who rail against affirmative action don't even realize that is where the majority of the advantage lies in college admissions, along with the ability to pay full freight.[/quote] You're missing an important point. URMs receive well documented allowances in the evaluation process in the for skin color.....250 points on the SAT if you're black, 180 if you're latino, etc. Legacies and athletes receive a benefit in the admissions process as well but it doesn't come in the form of handicaps, it comes in the form of an extra (albeit heavily weighted) credential in their application. You're assuming athletes and legacies aren't qualified to gain entry on their own merits but that's erroneous. Any elite college will tell you that >90% of applicants are qualified, based on their statistics, for admittance. The challenge of course is standing out with non-quantifiable attributes. [b]Athletics and legacies are great ways to stand out but by no means a guarantee of admittance.[/b] [/quote] Bullshit especially at places like Tufts and Amherst. I've seen this for myself first-hand. Legacy and athletics impact admissions way more than the points given to URMs on tests- which by the way is just one metric for admission. You don't know anything about their grades, talents, recommendations or ECs. [/quote]
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