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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, kids are impressionable and they're being told all of these differences are to be celebrated. Not just [b]tolerated[/b], mind you, but celebrated. So yes, there is a rash of confused kids embracing these identities.[/quote]

Ah, that word tolerance.  It sounds so quaint now.  Remember when that's all that was expected, to "tolerate" these behaviors?  Now it has to be full blown acceptance.[/quote]

[b]Tolerate has always meant acceptance[/b]. This is all a little silly but it isn't unacceptable. What is unacceptable is an adult who would mock or deride a child for this or post on an internet chat board protesting it. Only the most deranged sort of loser adult who is sick in the mind would do something like that.[/quote]

No tolerate, means to put up with something, not think there's nothing wrong with it. [/quote]

In this context, you are wrong. And your viewpoint here is not valid. Are you this ugly despicable person to which I was referring? I would like for you to stop thinking so much about teenagers and who they say they fuck. That is creepy and pervy.[/quote]

It's worse than that. Most of these kids aren't even sexually active yet (at least among dd and her crowd). They're just figuring out who they are. It's the OP and her ilk imagining these nonexistent teen-trans-orgies all happening with the parents' and school admins' blessings. The kids are figuring out what labels they're most comfortable with, since adults seem so determined to label everyone. The adults like OP are the ones making it all about sex. Gender identity isn't the same as sexuality. It's a separate issue. [/quote]

Bs. You do not have a clue with what's going on. It is not a separate issue any longer and I have see. That first hand among our children's peers. This should not be raken lightly and it saddens me that parents such as yourself are so niave and dismissive. [/quote]

Well, I have a gender fluid dd, and we actually discuss her feelings and thoughts as well as the happenings in her friend groups, so I have a decent handle on the situation. You, on the other hand, heard from a friend who saw some story on Facebook or wherever about how the others are ruining their kids' lives by existing. Yeah, you know so much more about it.  :roll:

Yes, sexual preference and gender identity are two separate issues. It's a very ignorant person who says they aren't. [b]Gender is a social construct. Boy toys and girl toys, pink and blue, feminine and masculine.[/b].. People created those things. There's no one size fits all. Two sizes aren't even enough. I'm glad the next generation is coming to terms with people being accepted for who they are. It's not really any different from tomboys in the past. Of course boys might not have had such an easy time if they didn't fit the stereotypical male roles, but I'm glad that the kids who don't/can't conform can have a little more acceptance these days. It's still not easy. There are still people like op, and possibly op's kids who see it as their job to put these kids down, and make them feel bad about themselves, but I'm glad more people are being tolerant. [/quote]

What I don't get about this whole gender binary thing is why is how masculine or feminine you feel worthy of giving yourself some official label?  In the case of transgenders, they actually feel as if they are born in the wrong body and are trying to be recognized as the sex of what they feel they were meant to be.  These gender fluid kids don't feel the need to become the opposite sex.  They are just kids who don't feel overwhelming masculine or feminine.  Well goody for them.  They are still either boys or girls, why do they have to try to get official recognition about how masuline or feminine they consider themselves?  [b]In the past tomboys did not see any reason to give themselves a special gender category. [/quote][/b]
Sure they did! The word [i]boy[/i] is right in there! The difference is that people who identify as gender-fluid or -non-binary recognize that they can go back and forth. They don't have to be strictly tomboy or femme or whatever 100% all the time. [/quote]

Tomboys didn't deny they were girls.  They weren't crossing out female on forms and claiming to be a third sex. They weren't expressing any desire to use the boy's bathroom, or referring to themselves as "they" instead of "she".  [/quote]

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