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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I grew up very poor with no connections.  I was able to overcome this and now I am in that top 20%.

I am ABSOLUTELY a dream hoarder for my kids and do what I can to give them all the opportunities I can.  There is no reason to be apologetic about it or to deny it's real.

It's important to do what you can for the less advantaged, too.  I do think it is terrible how disadvantaged poor children are but I'm not going to disadvantage my own kids to make it seem more "fair."  I will play the game because I don't want it to be as hard for them as it was for me.  Plus, I got damn lucky.  Plenty of people work as hard as I did, and the stars don't align for them.

I do find that most people who came from the upper 20% are remarkably clueless about poor people.  Most don't even know any actual poor people.  I make sure my kids spend plenty of time with my family back home -- who live very different lives -- so they can be more grounded.  Not too many of my kids' friends have ever been in a house trailer, and certainly not one belonging to family.
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+1,000,000

Besides luck what allowed you to make it

Then the argument should be what is the role of government in making this happen if any with the knowledge that any policy will be exploited

Personally I think the DC lottery system is a great model.  Some advantage for inbound (capitalism) and some lottery aspect (socialism)  Going to one extreme or the other helps noone

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I am the PP you quoted.  Besides luck, I have a strong family who prioritized education and hard work.  Most of our family dinners involved breaking out the Encyclopedia Britannica at least once.

My brother teaches back home and these kids...the families are a wreck.  No dad in the picture, raised by elderly grandparents, mom on drugs, mom just a loser who doesn't give a shit about them....what kind of a chance do kids like that have?  I think we should not just focus on education but do what we can [b]to rebuild the American lower-class family[/b].  It's in disarray and you can see upward mobility crumble as it disappears.  just my two cents.[/quote]

Working on alternatives to mass incarceration is one thing. It's an example of policy that was well-meaning but really has multiple negative outcomes.[/quote]

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