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[quote=Anonymous]"I never said you weren't entitled to an opinion. I said that someone truly interested in knowing how another person ticked would want to get feedback from that person."

Well, in the other thread, you used snark and profanity and implied that someone else's opinion just couldn't be valid without listening to your opinion first.  Which is obviously a false statement on your part.  If in your world no one else's opinion is worthy of consideration unless they listen to you first before forming it, then you live in a peculiarly self-centered world.

In fact the world you live in is so self-centered that you actually think a very generalized discussion about what motivates "atheists" requires anyone to seek input from YOU, specifically.  The other thread wasn't about YOU, personally.  If a thread is about what YOU, personally, believe, then yes--it probably makes sense to hear from YOU.  But that's not what the other thread was about.

Even when it comes to YOU personally--if that were the subject being discussed, which it's not--it's up to ME, not YOU, to decide if I do or don't need your "feedback" to form whatever opinion I want to form about you.   It's MY opinion, not YOUR opinion.  You don't have to agree with it, and I wouldn't expect you would, but you do NOT get to tell me who I need to listen to before formulating it.

"Of course they can have an opinion or hypothesis without having that conversation but IMO the more informed I am the better my opinion is."

Right, you walked back your original belligerent nasty statement saying otherwise.  Apparently no one noticed that you admitted you were wrong in the first place.  I get to choose what underlies my opinions, you get to do the same. No one told you you couldn't state your opinion in the other thread, and you did state it.   You think my opinion about atheists in general would be a better informed one if I listend to YOUR opinion, specifically.  I disagree that YOUR specific opinion is necessary for me to form general conclusions.  There are plenty of other atheists and theists posting and their opinions are readily available so I do not need to wait until I have heard from every single individual to be able to form my opinion.

"I like to think we're all humans and there's common ground for all of us. I think it's really sad and kind of hurtful that you seem to think my thoughts have no value to you simply because I don't believe in god. I am not really that dogmatic actually. I just don't believe, I didn't choose to not believe I just don't."

You can't read. Or maybe you can't think.  I didn't say your thoughts have no value.  I said I don't need to have the benefit of a particular person's thoughts BEFORE being able to formulate my own opinion about something.  There is nothing special about you or your opinion.  It has absolutely nothing to do with your non belief in god.  It has to do with your apparent megalomaniacal insistence that your specific personal opinion is necessary before I can form mine.  It's not.  You're not the only atheist in the world.  You're not the first one who's ever posted on the internet.

"I don't think you can expect to have some private religious person sanctuary to discuss atheists on DCUM though, at least not while threads still show up in recent topics. I felt entitled to add my opinion because it's a public Anonymous message board and I do actually have the ability to give my perspective."

Once again, I never said you can't post whatever you want to post.  I never said there should be a private conversation.   The part where you got it completely wrong is the notion that I have to read your perspective before deciding what my own is.[/quote]

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