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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here.

Wow - so many respectful theists popped on here to show that they care. I'm touched. Looks like the unhinged theist (who still somehow can't reply properly?!) chimed in too. So kind.

Just can't stay away, huh? Why are you so drawn to atheists? Makes you start to wonder....
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[b]So, OP, where in that other thread that you've deliberately miscontrued to troll theists with this thread, do you see anyone telling atheists that they aren't welcome to participate in that other thread discussion?[/b]  All the quotes say is that whoever posted them isn't obligated to take into consideration someone else's opinion as a prior condition to formulating their own opinion.  In the other thread, an atheist got very upset that someone expressed an opinion about atheists without bothering to listen to the upset atheist's opinion first.  The response to the atheist was that there is no obligation to listen to his point of view before someone else forms their own point of view.  No one told anyone that they couldn't participate in the thread and fully express their opinions.  The atheist was upset, and you are very upset, at being told that someone thinks your opinions aren't that important or necessary.  But no one told you that you couldn't express them.[/quote]

Please refer to page 17. Specifically this exchange between the unhinged theist and the diplomatic atheist:

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Why are atheists even involved in a discussion like this at all?  If a bunch of religious people want to talk about what motivates atheists, why should atheists even care?  After all, all atheist means is someone who doesn't believe in god.  If religious people want to speculate about your motivations, what is the point in trying to prove them wrong?  [/b]

It's because you think religious people are wrong and stupid and you want to prove that they're wrong and you're smarter than they are.

If you don't want to believe in god, then don't believe in god.   Do you go on message boards to justify why you don't believe in UFOs and the Easter Bunny?  If not, why not?  Those don't really exist either, but lots of people believe in them.[/quote]

If someone was genuinely interested in what motivated another group of people they would be interested in getting that group's perspective. If they just wanted to talk sh $% and feel superior about themselves then they'd probably take this proposed path. [/quote]

[b]Why do you think religious people would necessarily want, need or value the input from atheists concerning what the atheists believe motivates atheists?[/b]  By definition, religious people and atheists have fundamentally divergent views of how the universe works.   Why in your opinion do you feel entitled to inject your input into a discussion by people who do not see the world as you do?  One thing for sure is that atheists are pretty much as dogmatic in their world view as the most religious of believers.  No one calls themselves an atheist unless they have crossed that line.

The mere fact that you don't think other people are entitled to have their own opinions without your input (thanks anyway) is interesting.  I'm not allowed to formulate my opinion about something unless you tell me what to think first? Is that how it goes?[/quote]

I never said you weren't entitled to an opinion. I said that someone truly interested in knowing how another person ticked would want to get feedback from that person. Of course they can have an opinion or hypothesis without having that conversation but IMO the more informed I am the better my opinion is.

I like to think we're all humans and there's common ground for all of us. I think it's really sad and kind of hurtful that you seem to think my thoughts have no value to you simply because I don't believe in god. I am not really that dogmatic actually. I just don't believe, I didn't choose to not believe I just don't.

I don't think you can expect to have some private religious person sanctuary to discuss atheists on DCUM though, at least not while threads still show up in recent topics. I felt entitled to add my opinion because it's a public Anonymous message board and I do actually have the ability to give my perspective. [/quote]

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The unhinged theist seems to be discouraging atheists from posting - on a thread about atheists - with the bolded statements above. That's how I read it. If that's not accurate maybe you can explain what he really meant. Feel free to use all caps if you think it will help your message.

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