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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My TJ kid got a 20K scholarship from UVA in an EA offer, then withdrew her Michigan RD application on the next day.

Michigan is a great school, but not worth the 80K OOS cost. You do not need a college degree to figure out the difference between 20K and 80K.

I think the opposite is true too. it is hard to imagine any Michigan kids would choose UVA if given a Michigan offer.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can only speak for TJ as DD goes there, but Michigan is a safety school, period.

TJ gets like 30-40 acceptances there a year but only like 3-4 go. UVA on the other hand is far more competitive and any TJ student would go there over Michigan in a heart beat.[/quote]

[b]Perhaps that’s why UVA has fallen to #5 among the publics.[/quote][/quote][/b]

You are not being honest in these posts.

UVA is celebrating because [b]it rose to no 24[/b] on the USNWR overall listing of top colleges and universities.  https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-advances-one-spot-retooled-us-news-ranking-no-24-nationally?utm_source=DailyReport&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news.  That is the only list that matters to those in college admissions

[b]UVA also rose to no[/b] 2 best value in the nation in a subsection of USNWR

And was also best value 3 Princeton Review earlier this summer. etc. etc.

What this basher poster is talking about is a subsection - not the full tally - of a USNWR-compiled list of the public universities in America, on which UVA dropped from 3 to 5.  This happened (and it's also discussed in the UVA piece above) because under the new methodologies USNWR is using, the number of Pell grant students admitted is going to make a larger impact than ever before. The problem with this assessment - as has been noted by many here and is not in dispute - is that colleges and universities have no say over the amount of Pell Grant students it takes.  That matter is decided by the financial status of the student AFTER acceptance.  Whether or not a larger proportion of students is Pell Grant eligible or not is simply a matter of demographics of the state.  As long as the economics of California run behind Virginia, Virginia will never again be no. 3 public university.  That is why there is a call on USNWR to change the methodologies that universities have no control over.  It's a systemically flawed criteria.  Poorer states (with poorer applicants) will always do better on this new methodology.[/quote]

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