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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I hope this whole awful situation does one thing - that it shakes the tree to find out exactly WHO is responsible for violent students in the classroom. Is it the school admin? The government due to crappy laws? Or the parents (even if the kid doesn’t bring a gun to school - obviously this situation is even worse in that regard).

Everyone will point the finger at everyone else at first, but hopefully after this case we’ll have more clarity about what we need to do as a country to get order back into our schools and get the violent kids out.[/quote]
It’s your local school administrators who have chosen to interpret federal laws in a whole new way. Allowing viciously violent kids to stay in your child’s classroom is a recent phenomenon. Parents certainly don’t have that power.

Now who exactly appoints the school administrators?[/quote]

Actually I would place blame other places. [b]There is a severe shortage of placements for violent kids and none that I know of for violent six year olds[/b]. The stay put laws and parental consent for services requirements give parents a lot of power and parents abuse power, which prevents schools from moving kids.  And the IEP process that is unwaveringly bureaucratic takes too much time to develop a plan even when everyone is on the same page.

There are issues with schools not giving services and not developing and implementing IEPs. But when it comes to violent kids, it’s not typically the school that causes the problems. I would not necessarily say the same if we were discussing dyslexia or ADHD services. But violence is a different story. [/quote]

My kid was extremely aggressive at 6.  There was no doubt he needed residential treatment.  However, I have private insurance.  Places that take young children are funded by some sort of gov't funding--school district or medicaid.  If you can get a Katie Becket waiver, you might be able to get medicaid.  In MD, that waiting list is years long.  Facilities don't take private insurance because then the length of treatment is determined by how long the insurance company is willing to pay; not by what the doctors say is necessary.  Through his IEP I found out that MD is a state that (for the most part) will pay for education in an RTC but not the medical side--hence the need for medicaid.  That is not true for all states though and I have heard of a few cases in MD where parents were able to get RTC fully covered.  I don't know how they did it.  I'll assume a very good attorney.

The only way to get him into the bed that he needed would be to do joint custody with the state.  Agreeing to split parental responsibilities with the state is a whole new ballgame than agreeing to an IEP.  I ended up driving him to Shephard Pratt every day for the help he needed.  He bounced between PHP and inpatient.  Let's be honest---most people in this country do not have that type of privilege--be it insurance that will pay, job flexibility, resources to cover other children when you can't be there, ability to pay for an atty, or even a facility that is remotely within commutable distance than can address mental health in young children.

I don't know what the answer is but there are too many hoops and barriers in place to let people who need help access that help.[/quote]

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