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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I live in NYC and take the subway everyday to and from work, and did so right through the pandemic (I’m a doctor so no WFH).

I am at the bway and Lafayette stop a lot because I have friends in the village. I am confused as to how anyone was in a chokehold for 15 minutes, since the stops adjacent to bway and Lafayette are 2 or 3 minutes apart once the train gets moving. 2nd Ave is almost humorously close to Bway & Lafayette - maybe 6 short blocks - and the other stop is nearby on the west side of Washington Square Park. The F train doesn’t run express in that area.

Also, I have been very very uncomfortable on the subway many times when there’s a mentally ill person acting threatening. However, I have NEVER ever seen anyone intervene. There is a protocol: Everyone stares at the ground and is quiet, if it’s getting worse then we move to the far side of the car, and if needed we switch cars at the next stop (crossing our fingers the ranting person doesn’t follow them to the next car). I suspect that the people in that car were utterly terrified since not one but three guys actually took action. That’s almost inconceivable to me.

When I am with my kids and the guys on the subway are screaming, acting threatening or taking off their clothes/relieving themselves in the floor the other passengers have helped shield my kids (and our kids are old enough to know to look down and stay still), but it’s always passive rather than active help from the other passengers. Although I appreciate any sort of help since it can be really very scary!

Also, all of these people online saying to just change train cars when the train is moving… no. It’s not Amtrak - in the subway you are outside of the train with only chains to hang on to. Maybe as an adult, but no way am I dragging my kids outside of the train car and over the connector when that train is hurtling down the track.[/quote]

I’m genuinely fascinated that you continue to live there, knowing that you put your children through that, even occasionally.[/quote]

Your expressed sympathy is underwhelming. [/quote]

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