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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think that the focus on race is outdated, if anything it should be that kids who come from less means; rural poverty, inner city low income situations get a bump in admissions if they have stats that would otherwise put them in the bottom 25 percent of typical admits. That is what will bring real diversity to campuses. A poor white kid from appalachia who worked their butt off in school brings more diversity of life experience than a black kid who went to GDS, vacations on Martha's Vineyard and is full pay. 
Racial diversity was very much needed 20 years ago on college campuses but now they need to focus on economic diversity. The colleges will continue to admit a variety of racial groups because there are thousands "URM" who will still get in without their race being considered. They have the merits. [/quote]

UC system in the 1990s tried the "economic diversity" approach [b]hoping that they'd increase the number of blacks and Hispanics[/b] but what they got were a lot of Eastern Europeans and Vietnamese. As that wasn't the kind of "diversity" they were looking for, they dropped it.[/quote]
 Well what's wrong with Eastern Europeans and Vietnamese? The whole point of what I was saying is that you admit without trying to engineer the racial result and only admit those who have the merit to attend, but give a bump to those who come from low income situations. The sad issue is that there are populations of Blacks and Hispanics in S. CA that don't have good public school systems from preschool-HS. That needs to be fixed but those kids should not get into UCLA because of their race above an eastern european or a low income white kid from bakersfield who is actually prepared academically to go to that UC.
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So you think a student from one of those terrible schools with a score 300 points below a rich prep kids should not get into UCLA?[/quote]

I think that if a student from one of those terrible schools scored in the bottom 25 percent of what typical admits score, and they are coming from a low income area of LA, then they should get into UCLA regardless of their race, but because they are obviously working very hard and trying to pull themselves out of the low income situation they were born into. (Some of these students would obviously end up being non-white students) My point is that race should not be the focus. 
There are shitty schools in Bakersfield and Barstow(dear god it is sad there!) and those poor white kids who score 300 points below a rich prep kid should have a shot of getting into UCLA too and not have their race hurt their ability of moving out of poverty. Another example, I think a student growing up in Alhambra, CA( likely Asian, statistically), whose family has very little means, should get a bump too. It is about diversity added through hard working students and making an effort in admissions to make sure that they are including some students *regardless of race* who are trying to break the cycle of poverty. It would be natural to have the racial percentages fluctuate year to year. [/quote]

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