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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Consolidated body exchange numbers for anyone who still thinks Ukraine is winning: 39:1

[twitter]https://x.com/SprinterPress/status/1980345402202395010[/twitter]

Something to consider each time the neocons reach for the next escalation. [/quote]

Are you getting paid to disseminate Russian propaganda? Most people like you are.[/quote]

Literally all that tweet proves (if it's even accurate) is that Ukraine, despite being illegally invaded and having its civilians be killed and raped by the Russians, still has the decency to repatriate Rissian dead, while the invaders, murderers, and rapists can't even muster the humanity to return the favor in equal numbers. [/quote]

Uh, its actually the exact opposite of what you wrote. Russia is returning bodies, and Ukraine is not. Either Ukraine has no bodies to return, or they are keeping the bodies. You tell me which is more likely. [/quote]

This isn't a little game. The nature of war has changed. Because of drones, the kill zone extends about 15 kilometers in both directions from the front line. No one is picking up the dead within those 30 kilometers. Even the wounded rarely make it out of that zone. Ukraine has roughly 80,000 who are MIA on those fields and can't be collected. Russia will have double that because they are on the offensive and are taking much heavier losses. Officially, there are about 50,000 Russian families wondering what happened to their sons and husbands. Unofficially, the number is much higher.

At the beginning of the war, there was a video of an old Ukrainian woman putting sunflower seeds in a Russian invader's pocket. To fertilize the soil when he's dead was what she said. And that's exactly what's happening.  [/quote]

The Russians are able to collect them, at a 40-1 clip. Even the Ukrainians are starting to realize not only is this war not winnable, but that Ukraine will likely cease to be a nation shortly.

Hope they had fun with their little coup in 2014…[/quote]

Russia is done. China has been waiting to take revenge on Russia for a long time. [/quote]

I keep hearing smug comments like this, but I don't think they're grounded in reality. I know that there was a communist lovers quarrel aka Soviet-Sino split half a century ago, but it seems like China and Russia have a much friendlier and mutually beneficial relationship than that between the U.S. and China.

China benefits from cheap, abundant Russian oil and natural resources; Russia benefits from Chinese technology and markets. With the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons on the planet, I don't think Russia is at risk of being at the mercy of any "revenge" from China. It seems like China and Russia have worked out a practical relationship befitting large neighboring nations that each has things that the other wants.

Meanwhile, the U.S. has outsourced its industry to China while at the same time deepening antagonism with them. I don't think we are at risk of Chinese "revenge" either but it would be better to take a more positive approach and seek to establish mutually beneficial relationships with large geopolitical powers like China. And while we're at it, it'd be nice to stop the killing and establish a mutually beneficial relationship with Russia as well. [/quote]

I totally agree with the first part of your analysis, but I would add that neither country will ever trust the other.  They are both pretty racist and the Chinese think the Russians are idiots and the Russians don’t think much of the Chinese.  But both countries are also enormously cynical and bases relationships on personal gain rather than trust.  It’s like two mobsters working together—but there’s always a chance one of them will cap the other if he thinks it will benefit him.

I don’t agree on your second point.  I just don’t think we can have any sort of a productive relationship with someone like Putin.  We tried that for decades.

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