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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"The clubhouse is budgeted to get an upgrade of $7 million in the FY2020 budget. I do not think this funding is sufficient to bring the facility to where it needs to be and what the residents want. I have met with the Mayor and she has agreed to build a brand-new clubhouse. I will work with her to identify the funding in next year’s budget."

Wow, that's news!  That a big quid for the quo. [/quote]

the kids still need outdoor space! the 100 aftercare kids need to be able to play outdoors after being in school all day. Sports teams of nearby public schools need places to practice. Evans is a disgrace. [/quote]

Go to the Duke Ellington school field. This is not a DCPS property. If DCPS wants to use the property, they need to step up with money. I am sure they will give DCPS the same deal. [/quote]

I assume you're talking about Jelleff, which is a DPR field? First, under DC law DPR is supposed to give priority to public and charter schools over all private users. Second, it's not like DPR and DCPS are different countries, they are agencies of the same city government, reporting to the same deputy mayor.  It shouldn't be hard for them to work together on common goals. [/quote]

Third, DCPS is not asking for exclusive use of the field for one school every day afternoon during fall and spring sports seasons.

Perhaps Maret needs to have a closed door meeting about DE?[/quote]

So how do you justify a law like that? The British School and Maret use the Jelleff and have a large proportion of students who live in DC. Their parents pay DC taxes that are used for DPR facilities and for DCPS. Why should DCPS have priority use of a public park? Seems like that law should be challenged in court.

It is interesting that are you advocating the merger DPR and DCPS. I wonder how many people would be in favor of that?[/quote]

How do you justify a law like that? The city has an obligation to provide free public education to its youth. Doing so requires facilities. Those facilities are often used only part of the time. If another city agency already owns appropriate facilities, and isn't using them at that particular time, allowing DCPS or public charter schools to use them saves taxpayers money.

This is the public school forum, I don't think you'll find much sympathy for the notion that private schools should be subsidized by the public. That idea was fashionable in much of the South in the years immediately following Brown v. Board of Education but has largely fallen out of favor. [/quote]

So by your logic the city libraries can be used as classroom space for DCPS or charter schools? 
The large point is DPR has a different mission vs DCPS.

[quote]Mission
The mission of the Department of Parks and Recreation is to enhance the quality of life and wellness of DC residents and visitors by providing equal access to affordable and quality recreational services, by organizing programs, activities and events, and by building and maintaining safe and beautiful open spaces and recreational amenities.[/quote]

Budget $47 million. https://cfo.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ocfo/publication/attachments/FY%202018%20Current%20Services%20Funding%20Level%20Budget.pdf

[quote]The mission of DC Public Schools is to ensure that every DCPS school provides a world-class education that prepares ALL of our students, regardless of background or circumstance, for success in college, career, and life.
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Budget DCPS               771 million
            DCPS charters 738 million 
https://cfo.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ocfo/publication/attachments/FY%202018%20Current%20Services%20Funding%20Level%20Budget.pdf

You can not exclude tax paying citizen from a public park because you see a park and wanted for your kids school use. The schools have enough money to buy or enter into an agreement for more facilities. They do not see it as a priority.

Many elderly, single people, people with children who are of different age vs your kids and or people with children in private school will want to use the park they paid taxes to have. Just like Maret should not have exclusive use of DPR facilities, DCPS should not be allowed to do the same. DCPS could have bought the property when it was for sale and did not to buy it. You are no different from Maret ....well at least they will pay and improve the park unlike you who just wants to steal it. [/quote]

Oh FFS.  What a massive straw-man argument. My guess is that Maret hired a crisis PR firm to troll the message boards, and here you are.

There is NOTHING wrong with a city prioritizing facilities to go to it's PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS.  By your argument, private schools should also be allowed go buy out the actual public school buildings during daytime hours, just because they can pay more, and our public school kids should have to be schooled in warehouses somewhere. [b] A city has every right to reserve PUBLIC lands for specific PUBLIC uses, including prioritizing the use of parks for public school sports and after-care.  [/b]The only way that legal rights come into it is that the city cannot engage in viewpoint discrimination when selecting between private users, when the facility is open to private use.  [/quote]

Absolutely not. Do you see the budget difference between DPR vs DCPS? It’s a public park not part of the public school system. You just want take the public park for DCPS use because at this time your kid goes to the school. The argument has gone from not letting Maret get priority use of the park to having DCPS getting priority use of the park with no financial responsibilities to maintain the park. I live within two blocks of Jelleff and will work to stop you jerks. You are just a bunch of free riders who want to deny the public access to a public park. There are a lot of groups who have every right to use that public park and club house. [/quote]

Er, isn’t DC presently transferring Duke Ellington field from DCPS to DPR?  Doesn’t seem that hard.

And why do you — if you not a parent with affected kids — care which school team or teams uses the sports field on weekday afternoons?  It’s going to be some school group or the Boys and Girls Club.  What other groups are being denied rights they desperately need to weekday afternoon field access?  North Georgetown Croquet League?

Furthermore, you do realize — don’t you? — there is a permitting system that allows different groups to gain access to DPR field use, but that only Maret has a special 10 year exclusive deal?
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Finally, you, lucky citizen that you are, are able to use many DCPS playgrounds and fields and open spaces outside of school hours and when not rented?  Isn’t it nice that DCPS adds to the publicly available park space even though they are not DPR? [/quote]

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