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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You just can't stop yourself from spinning threads to make it look like you were even remotely persuasive. [quote=Anonymous][ Oh puhhhhhleassseeee. And for anybody who really wants a laugh, a summary of this thread and the genuine "challenges" Muslim posters faced: ... Muslim: the sura Muslima quoted showed that Islam made women politically relevant IslamHater: No, it was an admission for membership into the Prophets tribe. Muslim: yes, and that an oath was administered for entry into his tribe makes her politically relevant because more oaths= more power IslamHater: okay, but then its at least discriminatory because the same oath was not administered to men. <note the deflection again> Muslim: ummm, yes it was. A group of men took the oath in the treaty under the tree, to become members of his tribe and pledge allegiance to the Prophet. IslamHater: <silence> And there you have it folks. These are not challenges. They are pitiful misunderstandings based on her google ability, TV shows about Indonesian children, radio shows airing uneducated listener comments who she likes to mock, and reliance on unreliable, literal English translations of the holy Quran. [/quote] Here's what you actually said, right in the middle of the debate on whether women had the vote 1400 years ago, on page 35 if anybody wants to go back and see for themselves: 10/10/2014 01:20 [quote=Anonymous][Muslima, I'm just an ignorant, barefoot, veiled Muslim gal. Can you explain to me what it means to be a very American woman? Does it mean she's wearing a baseball cap, her boyfriend's boxers, a nose ring, a few tattoos, and eating apple pie? ?? [/quote] 10/10/2014 01:07 [quote=Anonymous]Post a pic of your last pap smear lab results showing your STD (HPV seems to be popular in western states) and maybe we Muslims will feel sorry for you too. [/quote] And then your "apology" took the form of faking regret for insulting all American women, instead of just insulting your nemesis (not me). FWIW, I've been watching this thread, and I agree with the PP who says that you failed to prove that [u]satisfying a demand to promise you will behave yourself[/u] is a form of "voting." It's more like when the INS used to turn away people with tuberculosis, because no host country wants to allow people to enter who will contaminate the home population, either physically (tuberculosis) or morally (the Muslim woman's pledge of good behavior). Your error above is in the fourth line, where you claim your nemesis says "okay" to your claim that this makes women "politically relevant." No, she never said that. Nobody else ever said that, either. You're making that up. [/quote] Of course I apologized to you and all nonMuslim women. If you did not understand that, here's clarification- I am sorry for saying that. I lost my cool after seeing very unreasonable arguments and mocking of Islam. For ex, the most recent mockery was when you spoke of the radio station caller who asked an imam if its ok for her to undress when she thought jinn may be in the room. I have a Doctorate degree and worked in IT and law before retirement. If I heard the same caller, I would not have thought to mock her, but would realize she simply needs help in understanding the concept of intent in Islam. You chose to mock her. You like to point out your exceptional intelligence, but exceptionally intelligent people know less intelligent people should not be mocked. Their lack of intelligence may be due to genetic factors, culture, upbringing, and why on earth would anyone hold them accountable for that which they can not control? It's a mean girl tactic and shows your character. Another example is how differently you and I handle curiosity about different faiths. I read the Bible and then sought two knowledgeable priests to better understand Christianity. You, on the other hand, refuse to seek a scholar or learn Quranic Arabic to clarify your own misunderstanding about Islam. Instead, you spout off on DCUM falsities offending the religion of 1.6 billion people. Again, it shows Jeff and Muslima were correct about you all along, you had an agenda. So I do apologize for my comment about nonMuslim women. I do. But if your motivation is to understand real Islam, you would engage in the serious study of it the right way. [/quote] We were not mocking the woman with the jinn in her house, but the Islamic "scholar" who told her she could not undress in front of the jinn. I also mocked the Saudi cleric who issued a fatwa saying it was permissible for a man to have sex with his wife up to six hours after her death. Mocking probably isn't the right attitude here but rather sadness that these kinds of midget-minded "scholars" have overrun today's Islam, which has produced such theological giants in the past.[/quote]
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