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Resistance to Israeli Occupation: Hezbollah was initially formed to resist the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon, which began in 1982 during the Lebanese Civil War. The group's primary objective was the liberation of Lebanese territory from Israeli control, which it claims it achieved in 2000 when Israeli forces withdrew from most of southern Lebanon. Hezbollah continues to view opposition to Israel as one of its core missions, particularly in relation to disputed areas like the Shebaa Farms.

Support for Palestinian Liberation: Hezbollah is committed to the broader goal of ending Israeli control over Palestinian territories and supports the Palestinian cause. It advocates for the destruction of the State of Israel and the establishment of an Islamic state in all of historic Palestine.

Defense of Lebanon: Hezbollah portrays itself as a defender of Lebanon from foreign aggression, particularly from Israel. It justifies maintaining a paramilitary wing by arguing that the Lebanese state and army alone cannot protect the country from Israeli threats.

Establishment of an Islamic State: In its original 1985 manifesto, Hezbollah expressed the goal of creating an Islamic government in Lebanon based on the model of Iran's Islamic Republic. However, this goal has been downplayed over the years, and Hezbollah now claims to respect Lebanon's multi-confessional nature, emphasizing political pluralism instead of insisting on an Islamic state.

Opposition to Western Influence: Hezbollah positions itself as a force against U.S. and Western influence in the Middle East. The group opposes what it perceives as American and Western hegemony in the region and aligns itself with Iran’s anti-Western stance, particularly in its opposition to U.S. policies and military interventions.

Support for Iran's Ideology: Hezbollah has strong ties to Iran, both financially and ideologically. It adheres to the principles of Wilayat al-Faqih, or the Guardianship of the Islamic Jurist, a concept developed by Iran's Ayatollah Khomeini, which advocates for the rule of a qualified Islamic jurist in the governance of a state. Hezbollah views Iran's Supreme Leader as its spiritual leader and continues to support Iran's regional policies.

Political Role in Lebanon: Over the years, Hezbollah has become an integral part of Lebanon's political system. It participates in elections, holds seats in the Lebanese parliament, and serves as part of governing coalitions. Hezbollah's stated political goal is to protect Lebanon’s sovereignty, security, and interests while ensuring the defense of the Shiite community, which is a significant political and social base for the group.[/quote]

Given the recent emergence of, yet another, “Islamic State” in Afghanistan, I believe the world (and particularly the women of the world) have had quite enough of these “Islamic states,” espoused by Hezbollah in the paragraph above.

Israel is doing the world a favor by dismantling the designated terrorist organizations of Hezbollah and Hamas.

Carry on.[/quote]

The last thing we need is yet another Islamic State run by psychopaths.[/quote]

That is true because if we had one of those alongside the Jewish state run by psychopaths we truly would destroy the world as we know it.

There is another answer: a ceasefire. [/quote]

Yes because Hamas and Hezbollah have a history of holding to ceasefires.

Wait … crap.[/quote]

All you need to do is look at how many people (ie humans) Israel has killed over the last 100 years compared to how many Israelis Muslim groups have killed to understand that the scales are definitely tilted. It's not Israel that is the victim. [/quote]

So you don’t care that Hamas and Hezbollah broke ceasefires on Oct 7/8.[/quote]

There was no ceasefire to break because Israel was killing Gazans and West Bankers all along.[/quote]

Yep. This. [/quote]

Except that isn’t true as far as Gaza is concerned. There was a ceasefire and Hamas broke it.

There was also a ceasefire with Hezbollah.[/quote]

GTFOH. Just GTFO.

Do you have any idea what an absolute land, sea and air blockade imposed on a goddamned squalid concentration camp looks and feels like? Random detentions without charge and extrajudicial killings with no provocation? Flagrant violations on international law, multi-generational violations of U.N. resolutions, violations of the Geneva Convention, sovereign airspace violations, assassinations of civilian men of science, and on and on.

Those people have every goddamned right in the world to hate Israel and Israelis for who they are, for what they’ve done, for what they stand for,  and for the daily, numbing abuses and humiliations that have been forced upon them by people like you. “NBD, just get over it” and yet people like you have the gall to cry out the moment the oppressed fight back, demanding everyone’s attention and sympathy.

Israel will never have peace or safety because it’s not about a Jewish homeland, it’s about a platform for evil, craven POS imports from Eastern Europe to impose their bellicose, racist ideology on a group of people who walked into a one-sided fight involuntarily funded by people like me, FFS.[/quote]

DP.

Israel WAS "just about a Jewish homeland", then the Arabs and Palestinians unlawfully tried to wipe Israelis off the face of the earth in '47-'48.

So Israelis have just as much "right" to hate Palestinians and their Arab neighbors as vice-versa.

Thinking like yours does nothing but perpetuate hate and fuel the conflict.

So congratulations. You fuel the very cycle of hatred that you purport to decry.[/quote]

LOL if it was "just about" Jewish homeland, then why did the early Israelis commit themselves to becoming Arab-free? They didn't succeed fully of course....but the early Zionists were more honest than you.  They all admitted that the Jewish state means a Jewish majority and the Jewish government - which is impossible with a huge Arab block in its midst.  Ergo, Arabs had to go.  They couldn't very well up and slaughter them so a myth of dirty aggressive Arabs who hate the Joos had to be invented. It's sort of comical how Germans became the good guys and Arab the bad guys now that Arabs had something the Zionists wanted.[/quote]

Don't you just love the "wipe out Jews" crap these ridiculous people keep pushing? This is the lie they have to tell themselves to make every Jewish person look like some sweet, innocent person who never did anything. You want "wipe out" look in the mirror at that EUROPEAN heritage. Those were the people trying to "wipe out Jews."

Let me give another example of actual "wiping out."

You know the reason Jews from Arab countries are called "Mizrahi"?  Because Euro Zionist Jews made them ERASE their Arab identity. So some German Jew was allowed to retain their European identity, but those RACISTS made ARAB Jews erase theirs.

You know why Arab Jews were made to leave Arab countries after living in them for thousands of years? Because Zionist Jews were the ones who used intimidation when they started showing up. They made Arab Muslims and Christians turn against their Jewish *brethren* by what was done in Palestine. Arab Jews were in the govt and every industry  in Arab countries and then it change the moment (per usual) Europeans showed up. Monstrous scum like the Mileikowsky family.

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How about we stick to the actual history of Israel/Palestine?

In fact, why don't we use the actual words of the Secretary General of the Arab League at the time of the attack on Israel?

"This will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre".

Azzam Pasha, October 11, 1947[/quote]

Again, you're an amateur. You think I couldn't pull up quotes from Zionists in the 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond? Don't start this nonsense of quotes knowing full-well I could pull up far worse from Zionist Jews.

And that quote wasn't about  J E W S for being JEWISH. Does it ever even cross your mind why it is that Arab Jews were living in Arab countries and prospered for so long and then it *suddenly* changed? The change is why that quote was stated. So yeah, we're going to keep going into history until your brain can absorb what REALLY happened as opposed to what you tell yourself what happened.

I can even pull up a quote from the friggin  founder of Hamas himself saying *Jews* weren't their enemy. Zionist Jews need people to be ignorant of actual history and the view of Jewish people. The west applies their own prejudices against Jews onto Arabs. It's pathetic. Arabs didn't give a damn that their fellow ARABS were Jewish, that's why you can find Hebrew going back centuries in the ME. You think that happens because there's a Holocaust going on every day in the ME?[/quote]

You’ve completely lost the plot.

Point is simple: Israel accepted partition; Palestinian and Arab leadership did not.

They instead launched a war of extermination.

So for all your (rather hysterical) ranting about evil Eastern Europeans seeking to exterminate Palestinians from the start, the facts don’t support your case.

You’d benefit greatly from a more nuanced and fact-based understanding of the situation.

But alas, I suspect this is too much to hope for. So…rant on. I await your further bizarreness with great anticipation.

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"Accepting the partition" is code for massacring the indigenous people and OBVIOUSLY welcoming the majority of a land that belonged to others, ig. How civilized of them! I do wonder, however, why the indigenous people already occupying the land didn't take kindly to their land being transferred to violent Eastern European thugs and criminals, though. We'll have to explore that further.[/quote]

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