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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Returning to this thread:

If you read the first 20-odd pages, there are a lot of people saying that indeed teachers do work hard.  The first few posts are about how people DO, in fact, acknowledge how hard teachers work.

There are a couple of posters who did poop on teachers, true.

There were also posters that said, "hey we are all overworked."  (Which is not saying that teachers AREN'T overworked, its' saying other people are overworked as well.)

There are also a couple of teachers who are ridiculously dug in to the narrative that they have the hardest job ever (worse apparently than poop scuba divers).

Oh yeah, there's the "parents suck" teacher as well, who always chimes in to just keep everything positive.

This is just a summary so no one thinks this entire thread is just "teachers have easy jobs."[/quote]

Yet there are plenty of posts that refuse to acknowledge that teaching can be demanding, and the tired “but summers” argument is the usual go-to.

There are staggering misconceptions about teaching throughout this thread. I wouldn’t presume to know what it’s like to be a doctor or a “poop scuba diver,” but it’s clearly okay to assume what teaching is like. We’ve all been in classrooms, after all. We’ve all seen teachers in our daily lives. I guess that makes all of us on this thread clear experts in the education field. Sigh. [/quote]

There is one (hopefully one) teacher who is suggesting that indeed they do know what every job entails, and that they do all of it as a teacher.  And upthread there are plenty of comments where teachers presume to know what other jobs do or what the conditions are (and why their jobs are worse).  This is part of why this thread won't die.

I think the main problem, as described numerous times upthread, is the phrasing of the OP.  It's such a "what about me?" statement, despite the fact that there are teacher appreciation weeks, national news articles about teachers being overworked (suggesting they acknowledge that teachers are overworked), threads all the time here about how to appreciate teachers, etc.[/quote]

DP. I'm assuming that poster is a troll, because I don't think anyone with more than a high school education would actually believe that poop divers and teachers have overlapping sanitation skills.[/quote]

Not a troll and if you think I haven't had to clean up pretty much every bodily function out of my classroom you'd be wrong.[b] I'm not diving 20,000 leagues to get it, but it is there on occasion[/b].[/quote]

Right, yes…this is a completely, COMPLETELY different story. Not even close to comparable. That you would imply that is laughable…what grade do you teach?[/quote]

Also, like...it's not even unique? Most of us here are parents. We've all seen blowouts. Are we supposed to be impressed by the fact that you've dealt with poop?[/quote]

DP but are you really going to equate handling your own infant's diaper changes with the poop of an elementary schooler unrelated to you? Classic case of parents thinking they do everything teachers do... but don't you dare close the schools during a pandemic, we need that babysitting[/quote]

I think you missed the original comparison being made. Let me help!!

Cleaning up the poop of a child by an adult, either a parent or a teacher: relatively similar task. Swimming in poopie while wielding a fiery tool: not similar to either of the above. Hopefully you understand now. You're welcome![/quote]

Not a troll checking in. The fact that you have to go as extreme as a scuba welder to try to find something we don't do is proving my original point. The fact that you think its acceptable that someone with a masters has to clean up strangers childs poop are comparing it to cleaning up after your own kid, aka parenting, is even better.[/quote]

???? There were SO many other examples provided (…at which point the teacher PP - who kept demanding examples of skills people performed in other jobs that she doesn’t perform as a teacher, INSISTENT that she does everything every other jobs does - slunk off with simply “I don’t have time to respond to this, I have papers to grade”…lol). Please read the context, as you would - I sincerely hope - teach a student to do.

The poop scuba diver point is here because the teacher claimed that since she occasionally deals with poop in her (…above water. Lol.) classroom, she does the same thing as the poop scuba diver. Idiocy [/quote]

I decided to go back and look at that list. Some of it (flying airplanes, designing architecture, performing surgery) I feel are clearly cherrypicked to be specialized. The greater point is that we do components of many jobs. I'm not designing architecture, but I have to set up my classroom in a way that allows for 30 people to function in a room built for 20. I don't sell software, but I have to sell myself to get grants and donations. I don't dig ditches, but I do have to work with my hands often doing physical labor because we don't have enough custodians.

Again, the fact that the PP had to go to such hyperspecialized occupations to find things that aren't part of our job is only further proving the point of how many things we have to do.

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That’s true of many jobs. A hairdresser is part psychiatrist, part counselor, part janitor, part accountant, part building super, part sales person, part cleaner, etc.[/quote]

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