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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Looks like the shutdown will be underway til mid January. [quote]A large swath of the federal government is shut down — and so are negotiations to reopen it. President Donald Trump’s standoff with Democratic leaders over the border wall dragged into a third day on Monday, with no hopes on either side of a Christmas deal to break the stalemate. It’s been 48 hours since the last real discussions between Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Vice President Mike Pence, and there's growing sentiment in the Capitol that the closure could drag on until mid-January.[/quote][/quote] Why is Trump acting like a child? No one wants this stupid wall. [/quote] From WaPo, here is latest polling on support for the wall: A recent CNN poll showed that 61 percent of respondents oppose building a border wall without any funding from Mexico. Only 33 percent of respondents support such a plan, including 75 percent of Republicans, 32 percent of independents and just 4 percent of Democrats. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-claims-without-evidence-that-most-of-the-people-not-getting-paid-in-partial-government-shutdown-are-democrats/2018/12/27/afbc992a-09cc-11e9-88e3-989a3e456820_story.html?utm_term=.f370314027d5 Trump needs to stand down.[/quote] Does your poll indicate what percentage of residents in "border states" oppose or support a Wall? That would be a more significant data point since it's border state residents who have to deal with the brunt of illegal immigration that a Wall is designed to prevent. I'm sure you know why D.C. and the surrounding suburbs are subject to such blatantly obvious de facto segregation, including actual physical walls in the wealthier areas.[/quote] According to the map below from https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2053168016645830, border states like California and Arizona have the lowest levels of anti-immigrant sentiment. The highest are Arkansas, Utah, and Kentucky. I'm surprised by Ut, but Arkansas and Kentucky are very poor states reliant of federal monies. [img]https://journals.sagepub.com/na101/home/literatum/publisher/sage/journals/content/rapa/2016/rapa_3_2/2053168016645830/20161013/images/medium/10.1177_2053168016645830-fig1.gif[/img][/quote] I live in Phoenix: I’m not surprised since half of our population is from Central and South America and the other half moved here from California: if it wasn’t for the snowbirds spending money and paying taxes AZ would be a very different place. Our hospitals and social service agencies are bearing the brunt of illegal immigration. Meanwhile you limo liberals say we should take more. I say we load them on a bus and drop them off in the DMV. I agree with Trump, shut it down till it can be fixed. [/quote] You must have moved in from Michigan! The reason everything is crappy in AZ is because the GOP cuts taxes all the time! Taxes are what find services. You should move to Tucson, it’s much nicer than the hellhole in Phoenix. You aren’t an AZ native because you would know what the real problems are in AZ... and it isn’t undocumented people.[/quote] Only a beltway moron would consider low taxes to be a bad thing. :roll: [/quote]
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