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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Russia now claims to have taken Ugledar with 800+ UA soldiers surrendering.

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Only Russians call it Ugledar.

But Ukrainians really need to get better with knowing when to retreat. Losing Vuhledar is bad, but losing soldiers is worse. Those guys had been defending Vuhledar for two years. They should have been allowed to retreat when it became clear Vuhledar was going to be surrounded. This is the third time Ukrainian generals have made the same stupid mistake. They did the same with Bakhmut and Avdiivka. Ukraine can't afford to lose soldiers like this. It's dumb Soviet-era obstinacy that still infects the upper ranks of the UA. And Ukraine can't afford it.   [/quote]

Syrsky is not Ukrainian general, he is a Russian puppet who killed Ukrainian soldiers. Vuhledar is just an evidence of his either incompetence or conspiracy with Russia. [/quote]

While I enjoy the circular firing squad, the truth is this is what happens when you marinate in a culture of lies and deceit for too long. From the lowest Territorial Defense conscript all the way up to the big guy, Ukrainians have to present a picture so rosy, that it has no relationship with the truth. Important information doesn't, can't, be conveyed upwards. So why retreat from Bakhmut when you're slaughtering Russian meat waves 10-1?

And most importantly, you can't surrender a "fortress city" when the big guy is presenting his victory plan to his buddies in Europe and America. So you hold on as the situation gets more and more dire to avoid embarrassing anyone important. Rinse and repeat until Ukrainian leadership is huddled in a bunker waiting for Steiner's counterattack. [/quote]

I’ve watched Ukraine operate for a while now.  If you believe Russia is ‘winning’ then feel free to enjoy the moment.

For anyone else other than Boris and Natasha, 9 months, and consensus seems to be building.

“Russia expects its problems to intensify by the summer of 2025 due to a combination of financial, economic, and socio-political pressures.”
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/39020

Now the Kremlin is faced with many dilemmas.  This will be the second year the phones stay silent at New Years.  Host another tasteless New Years bash as widows weep, or let the mourning and deafening silence drown out the patriotic call to battle?  Will the buses be waiting to ‘recruit’ in Moscow this year? Will Soloyov’s traitorous statements go unpunished?  And what will happen to the overseas agents when in November they let Putin down?  So many choices to make, so little popcorn left.[/quote]

Has everyone forgotten 1989?

Russia collapsed.  Tanks rolled down the streets of Moscow and fired their cannons at the Duma.

Today, the Rubble is worth less than one penny.  And its value is quickly dropping.

Everyone sees where this is all headed, right? [/quote]
Well I was eight in 1989 and have never studied the precise conditions that led to the dissolution of the Soviet Union (which was ‘91, right?).

I do wonder where it’s all headed for Russia. The Ukraine invasion seemed and seems like the dumbest possible thing to do.[/quote]

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