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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Russia now claims to have taken Ugledar with 800+ UA soldiers surrendering.

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Only Russians call it Ugledar.

But Ukrainians really need to get better with knowing when to retreat. Losing Vuhledar is bad, but losing soldiers is worse. Those guys had been defending Vuhledar for two years. They should have been allowed to retreat when it became clear Vuhledar was going to be surrounded. This is the third time Ukrainian generals have made the same stupid mistake. They did the same with Bakhmut and Avdiivka. Ukraine can't afford to lose soldiers like this. It's dumb Soviet-era obstinacy that still infects the upper ranks of the UA. And Ukraine can't afford it.   [/quote]

Syrsky is not Ukrainian general, he is a Russian puppet who killed Ukrainian soldiers. Vuhledar is just an evidence of his either incompetence or conspiracy with Russia. [/quote]

While I enjoy the circular firing squad, the truth is this is what happens when you marinate in a culture of lies and deceit for too long. From the lowest Territorial Defense conscript all the way up to the big guy, Ukrainians have to present a picture so rosy, that it has no relationship with the truth. Important information doesn't, can't, be conveyed upwards. So why retreat from Bakhmut when you're slaughtering Russian meat waves 10-1?

And most importantly, you can't surrender a "fortress city" when the big guy is presenting his victory plan to his buddies in Europe and America. So you hold on as the situation gets more and more dire to avoid embarrassing anyone important. Rinse and repeat until Ukrainian leadership is huddled in a bunker waiting for Steiner's counterattack. [/quote]

I’ve watched Ukraine operate for a while now.  If you believe Russia is ‘winning’ then feel free to enjoy the moment.

For anyone else other than Boris and Natasha, 9 months, and consensus seems to be building.

“Russia expects its problems to intensify by the summer of 2025 due to a combination of financial, economic, and socio-political pressures.”
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/39020

Now the Kremlin is faced with many dilemmas.  This will be the second year the phones stay silent at New Years.  Host another tasteless New Years bash as widows weep, or let the mourning and deafening silence drown out the patriotic call to battle?  Will the buses be waiting to ‘recruit’ in Moscow this year? Will Soloyov’s traitorous statements go unpunished?  And what will happen to the overseas agents when in November they let Putin down?  So many choices to make, so little popcorn left.[/quote]

Has everyone forgotten 1989?

Russia collapsed.  Tanks rolled down the streets of Moscow and fired their cannons at the Duma.

Today, the Rubble is worth less than one penny.  And its value is quickly dropping.

Everyone sees where this is all headed, right? [/quote]

+1, although unfortunately I think there is a good chance of a very different outcome.  It's possible China will step in to "help", at least where the Russian Far East is concerned.  It's very possible they could quietly seize nukes, oil, gold mining, etc. when Russia is too weak to do anything about it?

The Russian Central Bank has been hoarding gold and silver to hold up their currency.  But there is a saying in Russia, "some have meat, some have cabbage, and together you make eggroll".  Although the elite are fairing well, the economic disparity is rapidly widening - even at the regional level.  As an example, although Gold and Silver reserves directly support the Central Bank of Russia and their Yuan trades, it's the Marie Antoinette School of Banking for Russian regional banks.

"the Russian Central Bank reportedly increased the cost of ruble-yuan currency swaps. In September, Deputy Central Bank Governor Alexei Zabotkin argued that swaps should not be used by banks to solve their own funding issues under the false pretense of addressing liquidity problems."
"“This is where the ball is in the banks' court — they need to ensure that their lending activity aligns with their ability to attract foreign currency liabilities,” Zabotkin argued, suggesting that the banks source the currency they need on their own. "
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/10/07/russias-cbr-steps-up-yuan-sales-amid-deficit-a86602

The question is whether the Russian Central Bank will fall on their sword and hit that 20% mark?  Both psychologically and propaganda-wise, it would essentially be admitting the Russian economy is in real trouble.
https://www.intellinews.com/inflation-declines-to-8-6-in-september-but-another-rate-hike-looking-likely-347883/?source=russia

All this backdrop as Putin's island continues to shrink and the rats flee the sinking ship.

"Finance ministers from Egypt and the United Arab Emirates and the head of Iran’s central bank were present "
"But finance ministers and bank chiefs from China, India and South Africa stayed away, sending deputies or more junior officials instead"
https://www.westernpost.ng/top-brics-economic-officials-stay-away-from-moscow-meeting/#google_vignette

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