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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Question for those who claim gun laws don’t work.

If, hypothetically, it could be proven beyond a doubt that stricter gun laws would significantly reduce gun deaths (particularly re: children), would you then agree to jump through some hoops (longer wait, limits on ammo, etc.)?

Because I’m fairly confident you’re just making the conclusory argument that gun reform won’t work so that you don’t have to admit to yourself that you just don’t want to be bothered. But even you know it sounds bad to say “I will accept the status quo of gun deaths because I don’t want to be inconvenienced,” so instead you’ll contort yourself into pretzels to blame any f-ing thing except the guns.[/quote]

“Gun laws don’t work” isn’t “conclusory argument.”  It’s an observation of demonstrated fact. And continued pursuit of the same tired, failed “solutions” takes attention and resources away from dealing with whatever has happened in US society to make some people think killing their neighbors is a desirable goal. [/quote]

It’s not a demonstrated fact. You are some kind of political shill here trying out the only possible line that you think will work: blame gun violence on black people, trans people and SSRIs. You’re disgusting and literally have the blood of children in your hands. [/quote]

Stop engaging the guy who thinks life was best when women could not vote. [/quote]

That is a total mischaracterization of that person's position.

Corellation is not causation doesn't mean that the trend that is noticed is always the cause.  There's actually a whole website that is dedicated to correlations which is quite humerous, like increases in cheese sold correlates with murder rates.

[img]https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/image/1136_hotdogs-consumed-by-nathans-hot-dog-eating-competition-champion_correlates-with_total-number-of-automotive-recalls.svg[/img]

Rather the takeaway is that this wasn't a problem in the past.  Something has changed that made mass shootings increase inspite of it being harder to get firearms than it was in the past.[/quote]

Agree.

At this point:  I have a confession to make:  I took a gun to school

Yes, it’s true: every day of my last year in high school, I took a gun onto school property.  And ammunition.  You see, I was on the rifle team.  Most of the guns were kept on school grounds (in a locked locker), but my private coach lent me a target rifle; an Anschutz 1413; the type of 22 used for Olympics type target competition.

We had way more access to guns in the 1980s; the difference was:  we would never use them for violence.  That is what’s changed.[/quote]

Notice how you didn't have an AR-15.

I'm not saying that's the only thing, or even the main thing, but it is absolutely contributing to the number of deaths per incident.[/quote]

We always had one in the house, but you missed the point as usual, CGCL.

We had MORE access to guns in the past.  Difference was:  we did not use them on each other.

The issue is mental health.  And that problem goes far beyond the rare mass shooting.[/quote]

DP. But the past and the present are different. Now that the circumstances have changed in the general population—with mental health issues rampant—it would seem prudent to severely limit number of and/or access to guns. [/quote]

And then ban knives because mental health problems continue to increase. Never address the root problem. Just more bandaids. [/quote]

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