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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]0.6%, <1%, of the class of 2024 came from a low-income family.

They wanted to eliminate the inequitable admissions process.

And look who benefited the most - Asian students from low-income families.  [/quote]

They wanted to balance race.  This is clear from the email and text traffic between the FCPS board members.  And in the process...

Asian admissions dropped even as the class size grew larger.
White admissions rose the most.

Between the last year under the old system and the most recent class:
white admissions rose by 54 (more than all other racial groups combined)
black admissions rose by 12
hispanic admissiosns rose by 25
multiracial rose by 7
asian admissions dropped by 40

To be fair the county is mostly white so [b]if are trying to be more representative of the county[/b] you are going to get more white kids.  
But you are selecting for race not merit.[/quote]
should it be more representative of the demographic makeup of the county or the applications?  If 95% of the applications for varsity ice hockey team are white students, or if 95% of the applications to high school basketball team are black students, or if 95% of the applications to math counts team are asian students, should the selected make-up in each of those teams still be based on county racial composition?  
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If they did it based on applications, that would lower the current # of Asian students, as they are admitted at a higher rate than average. [/quote]
are you sure?
from another thread... denied % as well as count appears to be drastically different based on student ethnicity
[img]https://i.ibb.co/QQHcLcD/2028-TJ-applicants-denied.jpg[/img]

The admission rates for the various cohorts aren't all that different. The composition is mostly a reflection of who is applying. [/quote]
It depends on how one views it.  The largest number of declined applicants from single cohort is glaringly obvious.  [/quote]

1. These aren’t real numbers. We don’t have the racial breakdown for the class of 2028 applicants.

2. We do have the breakdown for class of 2025 and Asian students were accepted at a HIGHER rate than average. Not to mention significantly higher numbers than all other groups. 
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The point being made here is why are over 1000+ asian american students being denied, disproportionately higher in number than other cohorts.  [/quote]

The reason for this is that there are nearly a thousand more Asian applicants year-over-year than there are of any other demographic. If you would like fewer Asian American students to be denied admission to TJ, a starting point would be to have fewer of them apply in the first place.[/quote]

It's funny you don't make that point whe the idiots on your side claim no discrimination exists because most of the kids getting acccepted are asian.
Did you just suddebly realize how fractions worked?[/quote]
 Asian american student grew organically at TJ similar to how the black player strength grew organically at NBA. But suppression and discrimination took place at only TJ, though.[/quote]
I'm fine with TJ being 60% or any% Asian, but I find claims of Asian discrimination hard to buy given the facts:
1) TJ is predominately Asian. Asians currently make up a larger percentage of TJ than all other groups combined.
2) TJ selection is race-blind. It is illegal to use race for selection. 
3) The largest beneficiary of the selection changes were low-income Asians.
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I'm fine with TJ being 5% asian as long as the selectiuon is merit based.
(1) Right now it is close to a random selection so the selected students merely reflects the applicant pool and the majority of the applicant pool is asian.  More than all other groups combined.    The fact that you can't understand this depite frequent reminders means you are either a troll or really stupid.
(2) Noone is saying that the current random process is using race.  They are saying that the reason they went from a merit based system to a random system is because they wanted to change the racial profile of the school.  Our history is replete with facially neutral rules with racist origins like literacy tests, poll taxes and votwer ID laws.
(3) No the largest beneficiary of the change was kids that could not have gotten into TJ in a merit based system.  We know how to select for poverty without sacrificing merit and I would bet my next bonus that a merit based system that selected for poverty would mostly be selecting poor asians.  The impact of culture is even more pronounced at lower SES than at higher SES. [b] Asians don't outperform their JV peers in wealthy areas by nearly as much as they outperform their peer in poor areas.[/b]  The difference is stark.[/quote]

Apparently not. Students from low-income families were almost nonexistent at TJ before the change.

TJ is a resource for the whole community, not just kids from a handful of wealthy feeders. 
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So much class resentment!  [/quote]

Affluent people are not entitled to 100% of the seats. [/quote]

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