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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There is no need to ask this on an internet message board.  There is an abundance of real scholarly information explaining the likely origins - all of it very compelling and not that complicated.  Once you've read it, it's pretty hard to imagine that Jesus was in fact a historical figure.  Just do some real research instead of listening to a bunch of random people on the internet.  [/quote]

Still, you're expressing your opinion based on the reading/research that you've done.  Others could and do have a different opinion.

Also, some people conflate "historical" with proof of divinity.  It is no such thing.  It's simply likelihood of having existed.

For instance, there is no doubt about the historical George Washington or that he was the 1st president of the US.  It's all well documented at a time, not so long ago, when such important events were well documented.

No one is saying that Washington was a god, but if they did, there is no way for history to record a supernatural event. History only deals with facts.

Can't say the same about Jesus.[/quote]

But unlike 99% of this thread, the "reading/research that I've done" came with a couple of advanced degrees and is more than just an "opinion."  There is an actual body of research on this topic - published, peer-reviewed research.  Your opinion, based on nothing at all but what you thought up in your head or read on a message board, is not equal to actual academic knowledge.  And if you aren't familiar with that body of work, which is vast and very compelling and not at all just a bunch of "opinions," then it's pointless to try to explain to you why it is unlikely (not impossible, just unlikely) that Jesus was a real human who existed.[/quote]

And whether or not Jesus existed, history does not and cannot opine on his divinity.  That is beyond the scope of academic research, as any academician will attest.[/quote]

How is that any different than if Jesus were not divine?[/quote]

no different.  Historians can say, based on their research, that some people [i]believed[/i] that Jesus was divine, but cannot say he was divine.[/quote]

I think that the important part of your response is the "no different" part.

So the evidence that Jesus was divine is the same as if he were not divine.

Which, then, is more likely?[/quote]

DP. I’m not sure I understand this. But if I’m reading this correctly, you’re trying to equate evidence for Jesus’ existence with evidence for his divinity and claiming that of you can’t prove one you can’t prove the other. This is your basic apples and oranges, and the second thing is definitely not related to the first. [/quote]

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