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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really don’t understand people who say there is no affordable housing in a city that is one top ten markets in the richest country in the world. Go get a job that pays more or commute like the rest of the 7 billion people on the planet. What makes you so special? Go big or go home. That’s life in the city.[/quote]

For the record, people who used this post to castigate liberals. I'm a liberal. Very, very liberal. What I  angers me, is the "smart growth" folks is their insistence that they get affordable housing in Ward 3. There are a lot of less expensive places to live in this city. But you want to live with the other rich white people. Ward 8. PG County, parts of MoCo, have less expensive housing. Buy a condo. DO you know how many families of four are living in a 650 square foot apartments in NYC with hour long commutes on a loud smelly trains? you all need to grow up.   [/quote]

You are not nearly as liberal (in either the capital-L Liberal or small-l classical liberal senses of the word) as you think you are if you support restrictive zoning requirements.[/quote]

Before I slam you for misrepresenting my views,  perhaps you should explain what EXACTLY you mean by restrictive zoning requirements.[/quote]

Thank you for your graciousness!

Restrictive zoning requirements are a little bit like Potter's definition of pornography, so I'll grant you that it can be a little squishy around the edges. But, one obvious example is SFH zoning with large lot coverage requirements.[/quote]

Just three points I’d like to make here.

1. You don’t get to define my politics based on the absurdly narrow issue of real estate zoning  in Ward 3 of Washington DC.
2. I strongly believe the push for more density is an argument driven by capitalist developers who are looking for more high priced real estate to sell - the cost land  and construction effectively blocks affordable housing in this Ward.
3. Large lot coverages preserve green space. Those of us who choose to live in cities deserve greenery too.
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1. I didn't define your politics, your stance did. This issue is a direct application of your politics. If someone professed to be "very, very liberal" and then proceeded to support tax cuts for the rich paid for by gutting the social safety net, you would rightfully cast aspersions.
2. You're free to believe this just as you're free to believe that the sky is green, but it has no basis in reality.
3. DC has plenty of green space for you to enjoy - the National Mall, Rock Creek Park, the Arboretum, Glover Archbold park, just to name a few - so please don't act as though DC is lacking and building a duplex where there once stood a SFH is robbing precious green space.[/quote]

Sorry, I didn’t realize you were 15.[/quote]

Man, if I had a nickel for every NIMBY who resorted to namecalling because they knew their arguments didn't hold water...[/quote]

I think you meant to say YIMBY? Funny — supporting tax cuts for the rich is what YIMBYs are doing. [/quote]

Nope, I definitely meant to call you, a person who decided to sling mud because they knew their arguments were intellectually bankrupt, a NIMBY.[/quote]

Joke's on you because I'm neither a NIMBY nor a YIMBY.

The NIMBYs are irrational. More density near my house made my property value go down isn't a real thing.

The YIMBYs' understanding of markets seems to be based solely on a the C+ (that's a courtesy A- if you are a millennial) they got in economics 101 even though they were hungover every morning.

NIMBYs will get what they want even if the YIMBYs get all of the policies they want because the government is only limiting housing deliveries in theory, not in practice.[/quote]

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