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[quote=Anonymous]“They forfeit the hope for perfect justice. They cannot state anything is objectively and universally wrong. If their evolutionary moment is thwarted, or limited, or oppressed, or hungry, or poor, or ignorant, or downtrodden, or ill, or handicapped, or isolated, or ignored, that is that. The only way they can know the truth is through the scientific method. The metaphysical aspects of the human experience are fantasy.

So is materialism just pure intellectual honesty for PPs? This is the hand we were dealt, we are just material and nothing more, death is the end, I am satisfied because I have to be?”

To put it more bluntly, “Life sucks, then you die.”  Yes OP, you’re finally getting it.  Imagine this:  a toddler falls asleep while being transported to daycare, and sleeps so silently that when the parent inadvertently goes to work rather than dropping her off, she is tragically left in a closed car on a hot and sunny day.  The temperature rises inside the car, and the toddler wakes, crying, but nobody hears her.  I’ll spare us both more details but the innocent child dies a horrific death, and the parent who cherished the child is left to deal with the horror of what he has done.  Would it make up for such a horror if the child goes to paradise (or not, depending on your beliefs)?  What perfect justice accounts for the hell that the parent must live for the rest of his life?  Does the existence of a god who could intervene and save the child make it better or worse?

Bad things happen to good people.  Animals kill and eat each other.  The world contains brutal natural forces that kill and destroy homes and families without regard to their righteousness.  Evil people sometimes get away with it.

Life sucks, then you die.

But the world also contains beauty without bound.  You don’t need god to have hope, joy, love, and happiness.  Nor do you need god to strive to make the world a better place and help those to whom life has dealt a bad hand.  Maybe there is an accounting at the end.  I don’t know.  But whether there is or there isn’t I can try to enjoy my brief time on this earth to the fullest while doing my best to raise others up as well.  
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