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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]China and India alone have almost 3 billion citizens.

Chinese immigrants number about 2 million a year to the US.  Immigrants from India have about the same numbers.

These immigrants come here for education and better quality of life.  They are a tiny percentage of Asians but they are the most likely to be hardest working with some money and family connections.

I have a friend who came here from China as a child. We have children in the same grade and are close.  The rest of her extended family will not allow their children to be friends with American children.   They see Americans as lazy and a distraction.

It’s a different culture and with that amount of people the Asian population could easily fill MIT, Harvard, etc a thousand times over.  What are they supposed to do, especially if most of them go back to their country of origin?  [/quote]

I don’t understand the question…what are they supposed to do about what?

Why should we be sympathetic to the families that won’t assimilate?[/quote]

What are you talking about
They are the ones who assimilate to the American way and American dream - hardworking and competition

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No, the American way (which is what has made this country historically such a great place)…is that you are proud of your heritage but you are now an American and you want to embrace the country in its entirety (foibles and all).  If America evolved with just a bunch of ethnic cliques keeping to themselves, the country would have a much lower GDP and overall quality of life.

Help us really understand why you are immigrating here.  Someone posted a list of top engineering schools and 13/20 were in Asia, so no need to go to college in the US (in fact why would you?).  If you apparently hate the people and the system…help us understand.

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What are you talking about
Working hard and fair competition is not just the American way, it should be applied to everywhere
Since you asked, personally I followed my parents when I was a minor, and my kids were born here like you I guess.  
I don't hate anything.  I just found that the college admission system has a lot of flaws and room for improvements.  
It seems that the US Supreme Court would agree with me on some of them, and we'll see progress.  
Systems evolve.[/quote]

You are looking for a dictatorship. It is not here.

But go on with your tutoring. [/quote]

It seems that you don't understand the meaning of the word, dictatorship.
The colleges are acting like dictators when they are receiving all sorts of government aid and support.
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It is the colleges who get to decide who THEY want at THEIR school.  NOT the pushy parents. [/quote]
colleges shouldn't decide based on race, that's the point.  It's illegal to base anything on race, a protected class.[/quote]

You are correct, it should not be.  Most people (except Asians) believe it currently is not, except for URMs - please look up the meaning of URM.

Point being,[b] if all of one kind come to the U.S. at once, and most expect to be admitted, it is not going to happen.[/b] It has been this way for generations.  You were given bad information, and now you want that information to be true, when it is not. [/quote]
No one is "expecting" to be admitted to an elite college.  People are "expecting" to not be discriminated against their race.  I think black people would agree that no one should be discriminated against because of their race.[/quote]

Again, apples and oranges. Why do you think you have it so hard? Because you and most other people can not be admitted to your school of choice? Cry me a river. [/quote]
how is that apples and oranges?

When an AO marks the Asian American student as "not likeable" even though they never met the person and the Interviewer marked them as "likeable", that smacks of discrimination.

Imagine applying for a job, and the hiring team marks your application as "not likeable" solely based on paper and your name.[/quote]

While they have not "met" them, there may have been interviews, there are Essays and Teacher recommendations.  Those all go a long way to providing insight into the character and personality of the candidate.  the AO does not like how a teacher characterizes you or how you discussed a topic in an essay, so they mark you down for it.  They are allowed to do that---they are attempting to find a way to distinguish 62K applicants and select 1.5-2K for admission offers. Most are highly qualified so it will be "little things" that make a difference.

Quite honestly, it's not shocking that those that are screaming racism are not "likable".  These schools are looking for go getters, problems solvers, people who will change the world (Be it in stem research or teach for America or in between)---that does not include entitled students who whine if they don't get what they think they are entitled to because they have worked hard. [/quote]

Looks like you are new to this.  Welcome!.
Yes exactly, there are other factors like interviews, essays, ECs, leadership, etc.

Guess What?  
Asians as a whole are better at those than other races as well as revealed in Harvard secret data!!

Of course. GPA and Tests are the hard parts.  
What makes you think that they wouldn't be prepared for those extra stuff?
They know what it takes and are prepared.

That's why Harvard had to come up with the courage/likability/kindness BS score to artificially limit Asian numbers.
They came up with the holistic BS exactly the same reason to limit Jews back then.

[img]https://i.redd.it/nbe5raxpwcx91.png[/img]

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Bad argument because Jews were not allowed and had to start their own colleges.

At least know what you are talking about.[/quote]

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