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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]APP recommends full day K.
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/35/8/30/24929/Report-on-full-day-kindergarten?redirectedFrom=fulltext

APP study on holding back

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/article-abstract/16/4/26/18381/Redshirting-gets-low-marks-from-experts-on-school?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Another APP article

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/preschool/Pages/Is-Your-Child-Ready-for-School.aspx?_ga=2.11910322.72451483.1673973284-889523071.1673973284&_gl=1*1qyaen5*_ga*ODg5NTIzMDcxLjE2NzM5NzMyODQ.*_ga_FD9D3XZVQQ*MTY3Mzk3MzI4NC4xLjEuMTY3Mzk3MzY5OC4wLjAuMA..

Funny. The experts don’t seem to agree with holding back kids.

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Funny how you are not at all ashamed of showing how little you can actually read. [/quote]

The anti redshirt nut considers herself right up there with the celebrated experts of the APP.  She's a legend in her own warped mind.[/quote]

We should get the anti-redshirters to try math again. High entertainment value. 
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You are saying your kids have social and emotional delays and got them no help.  That is neglect.  Your kids could not get into these privates otherwise as they were not what you or the schools considered perfect.  [/quote]

I’m convinced this poster is a poll whether they realize it or not. Delaying the youngest kids in a grade is because of maturity issues due to being ten to twelve (or more) months younger than a portion of their classmates. That is not a delay. That’s developmental maturity, a concept you cannot seem to grasp.

Private schools will help guide you through this process to determine the best placement for children with borderline birthdays to thrive. So take your special needs pushing elsewhere. There’s nothing wrong with special needs. But it’s entirely different from maturity based on being on the younger side of a 12 month spectrum. And by the way, sometimes kids with special needs who are young for the grade also benefit from extra time as they can actually be delayed and their placement would be appropriate in either grade. So just get a life and stop putting labels on kids, you loser. [/quote]

Not the poster you’re replying to but then doesn’t that just turn a different cohort of kids (say, the may and June kids) into the youngest kids in a 12 month span (or a 14 month span thanks to redshirting) who then would ALSO benefit from being held back, because it’s tough for those kids to be in a class with kids who are that much older and more mature, if they themselves are a little immature? When does it stop? With the March/ April kids? Where is the cutoff for redshirting being ok? Because if all august kids redshirt, then July is the new august. So when July kids start redshirting, June becomes the new august. What is the cutoff??

Because the “real” cutoff is sept 1 (or whatever date it is in your own county). But I feel like a lot of redshirting parents will say “oh we redshirted our july boy but it’s crazy to see these May kids redshirted”. So people who think that way clearly don’t really think parents should be able to choose when their kids start school, they just want the cutoff to favor their child. That’s it. [/quote]

Yea, it does create a new cohort of kids who are the youngest in the class. Some kids will do okay as the youngest, as some will benefit from being the oldest. What seems less fair that taking it on a kid by kid basis is essentially making birthdays a lottery system- let’s assume the 9/1 cut off above: if you’re born late in the summer, you’re out of luck compared to the September and October kids. There will usually be statistically proven disadvantages of being the youngest. If your kid falls into that bracket, it’s good to have some flexibility so they don’t end up a statistic. May parents will cry about this because now it makes their kid potentially younger, but even that is sort of silly because a) they won’t be and b) the kids who are redshirted are generally outliers and do not comprise close to the majority of the class. [/quote]

If the majority of august kids redshirt, then the July kids will absolutely become the youngest. And when the July kids redshirt, the June kids become the youngest. And so on and so forth. People who resdshirt their kids feel exactly as you say- that their kids are the youngest,[b] they don’t like that[/b], so instead they make them the oldest by holding them back a grade. Which, in turn, makes a different cohort of kids (the early summer kids) the youngest when previously those kids would have had a handful of children younger than them.

So, then, those kids redshirt. Now the spring kids are the youngest when prior to redshirting, they’d have been late middle of the pack, age wise. It just continues. This is why there should be a firm cutoff, absent a doctors letter. [/quote]

That isn’t why people redshirt, dumba$$. 
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They are holding back to pretend their kids are smarter, more athletic and trying to give them an edge.  Schools hold back kids as it makes it easier to teach a kid who hasn't learned but is overly ready.[/quote]

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