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Exactly! You are well within your rights to criticize the decision. And I fully support that right.

But when posters like OP say this is "censorship" (not you, I think), that isn't a matter of opinion. That is factually wrong. [/quote]
That may be technically true, but part of the problem here is that this is now a widespread cultural phenomenon.  Many people say "times change" and that's true, but this change is so new that we don't have a widely accepted word for it yet.  Calling it "publisher's rights" doesn't capture it because it isn't really about their rights and it's way bigger than just publishing.  "Cancel culture" is a better term, but that's too perjorative.  What do you think it is? [/quote]

So a publisher cancelling their own books is "cancel culture?"

How about you take over the publishing of money-losing books and start subsidizing the publisher?[/quote]
I really doubt they were losing money.  Those books cost nothing to print and sales were low but steady.  Furthermorez they actually purpose was to keep Seuss's books in print. Plus they said that they cancelled book because the specific images were racist.  So why are you making up a story that this was strictly a money decision?

As I said, "cancel culture" is not a good term.  But we have no other term for "removing a statement or image from social circulation due to the perception of racism, whether voluntarily or involuntarily."

[b]Whatever that is, it's less than 10 years old and growing fast.  [/b]They were isolated cases before that.  There were other reasons things get "cancelled." But this particular reason and social process is new.[/quote]

What are you talking about?  This is how things have always evolved.  There is nothing new here.  How do you think older mores died away?[/quote]
Sure, and you think it always worked  the same, nobody noticed, and nobody had any complaints and it all went smoothly?  Really?  Is that what you learned from studying history?  I sure didn't.[/quote]

Of course people noticed.  And since they were in a position of power, the push back was harsh.  Why is what is going on today any different than anything that has happened in the past?  Do you think that in the past that people looking for change tried to "understand" those they considered on the wrong side of history?  [/quote]
Some people understood their opponents and some did not.  The ones who understood their opponents won a lot more often than the ones who didn't.  You do not understand your opponents.  
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