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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No one needs the media or Congress to tell them Trump committed a criminal act.  I have read the transcript of the call and the whistleblower allegations in their entirety.  The transcript does not contradict the allegations, and suggests that Trump, indeed, asked a foreign country (extorted) to investigate a political opponent.

The whistleblower complaint, for the most part, references known events that were reported on at the time, such as Rudy Giuliani’s European Adventure searching for someone who will give him dirt for Trump.

You want to argue, argue the substance of the allegations here, not whether Adam Schiff is dramatic.  That’s weak sauce and a lame attempt to deflect from Trump’s CRIMES.[/quote]

If there’s a treaty dating back to Bill Clinton saying that we will work together with Ukraine on criminal matters, where’s the actual crime?[/quote]

You can't be that dense. Does the treaty say that the President's lawyer has authority to tell Ukraine what they have to investigate in order to get a meeting with the President and to receive the military and development aid that Congress appropriated for them? Does the treaty say that the U.S. Ambassador should be smeared in order to get her out of the way if she does not allow the President's lawyer to intervene in U.S. policy with Ukraine? If there is nothing wrong with what Trump did, why did the Trump Administration hide the transcript of the call and defy the law by blocking delivery of the complaint to Congress?

Now, it is true that what Joe Biden did was appropriate as part of the U.S. - Ukraine agreement because he acted through official channels and advocated the position of U.S. government, the IMF, and European allies. And it had nothing to do with his son. [/quote]

Is Giuliani part of the administration?[/quote]

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