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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP - here (^^) is the reason why we still need AA. Nasty racist a-holes like this guy. 
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Eh, he’s not entirely wrong.  Until someone can explain to me why 6% of the population commits over 50% of violent crimes in this country I’m going to believe that there are some moral failings in the black community.  #uglytruths[/quote]

Maybe they have fewer options because they’ve been forced into poverty and have had a foot at their neck, holding them down for generations?

As PP said, “you shackle people for 400 years, have Jim Crow for another 50, discriminate against them for another 50“. Many are still stuck in the cycle of poverty due to racist policies.

How should we break the cycle of poverty so less people turn to crime? What are your bright ideas if you are against AA? 
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Just once I’d like to hear somebody take some accountability for the behavior of black people.  Yes, there is a terrible history of racism but there is also a terrible history of violence.[/quote]

The violence stems from poverty. 
https://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/violence
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and yet somehow low income asians generally have much better outcomes along with whites and hispanics.  Could it perhaps be I dunno the high rate of poor choices amongst African Americans like out of wedlock births and dropping out of school which have NOTHNIG TO DO WITH RACISIM YOU STUPID LIBERALS[/quote]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure

n New York City in 1925, 85% of kin-related Black households had two parents.[29] When Moynihan warned in his 1965 report on the coming destruction of the Black family, however, the out-of-wedlock birthrate had increased to 25% among the Black population.[27] This figure continued to rise over time and in 1991, 68% of Black children were born outside of marriage.[30] U.S. Census data from 2010 reveal that more African-American families consisted of single mothers than married households with both parents.[31] Most recently, in 2011; it was reported that 72% of Black babies were born to unmarried mothers.[26]

This along with the crack epidemic of the 1980s which is again ELECTIVE POOR BEHAVIOR is the cause of the collective failure of too much of black society not racisim[/quote]
I agree. The problem is you'll be called a racist if you point out that the high out-of-wedlock among blacks is strongly correlated to the high poverty rate. All it takes to get out of poverty is 1) finish high school, and 2) don't have babies until you are married.[/quote]

It’s not that simple. 
https://www.citylab.com/life/2017/04/escaping-poverty-requires-almost-20-years-with-nearly-nothing-going-wrong/524727/

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lol what a load of garbage.  Yes it's the elites that are forcing people to commit crimes refuse to pay attention and attend school and do drugs and have unportected sex

another liberal playing the victim card for these folks instead of personal responsibility to give a damn about the future[/quote]
Yup.

Is there a single liberal on this forum who is willing to acknowledge that at least SOME of the problems on the black community are the results of their own no, behavior and choices? You can't blame poverty and prejudice entirely. Are the European Jews wallowing in poverty after their own grandparents were stripped naked, paraded before Nazi monsters, and then gassed with their little children screaming by their side? NO. And why not? Because they did two things: got married before punching out the babies, and then sacrificing to send them to college.

Liberals hate when you bring up the success of Jews. It destroys their myth that poverty can be blamed on bigotry. [/quote]

You do know that European Jews are white, right?[/quote]
OMG......liberals just cannot admit that people who are subjected to the worst kind of prejudice can indeed be successful - and try to play that "whote privilege" crap on European Jews, barely 70 years after Hitler tried to exterminate them. It's like they're on auto-pilot.

Yes - I am talking about EUROPEAN Jews - did their "white privilege" save them two generations ago? Are they not now subject to continuing and in fact increasing antisemitism? This just shows how reluctant liberals are to admit that any personal traits - motivation, drive, sacrifice, delayed gratification - can contribute significantly to one's own success, even in the face of horrible bigotry. As I said, it destroys their myth that black people are, to some degree, responsible for their own outcomes.

Twist it around however you want to try to prove that racism accounts for all degrees of lack of success, even it it means you have to say that European Jews, who lost relatives IN THEIR OWN LIFETIMES because they were seen as sub-human, are beneficiaries of "whites privilege"! Disgusting.

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Hear Hear[/quote]

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