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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I guess so.  That is a very broad generalization - controlling women.  [b]All women are not being forced to give birth when they don't want to, [/b]so no, I would not phrase my statement as "controlling women."  That is just inaccurate - hence my confusion and asking for clarification.  Also, I don't see that as the predominant motivation for pro-lifers, so I was confused by such a broad generalization.  BTW, I actually see both sides to this debate and am not so strongly one side or the other as most people seem to be.

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Wow. So in your view, in order for a law to "control" people, it must actually control every single person in that category?  That's a ... novel form of analysis.  You claim to see both sides, yet you're conveniently avoiding the fact that we KNOW how to reduce unwanted pregnancy (access to birth control and health care) WITHOUT forcing women to have babies they don't want.  [/quote]

I agree. 100% for access to birth control and health care.  No, I don't see the root purpose of enacting anti-abortion laws as trying to control women.  Guess we can agree to disagree on that.  [/quote]\

But you literally just said that you thought an appropriate goal of banning abortion is to control women's behavior by making the consequences of their behavior more drastic.  Or did you not say that?  What did you mean by discussing how banning abortion would lead to increased use of birth control?  The whole point is one can reach that goal (increasing birth control) WITHOUT coercing women by punishing the opposite behavior (ie controlling).  You need to stand up and explain why you think the more coercive and controlling route to increasing use of birth control (banning abortion) is acceptable, when we KNOW that there is a non-coercive route (making long term birth control freely available).  
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