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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What we actually want is against democracy. We want to install the shah/king of Iran’s son back in power. His father was exiled out of Iran in the late 70s and the US initially encouraged the Islamic revolution and this same current government against the Shah. Now we want the shahs son back? Wtf?[/quote] Islam cannot do democracy. So unless you plan on mass re-education of 90 million people, a friendly monarchy is the best bet [/quote] Can Americans “do” democracy? Which part of the American experiment is going really well right now, pp? Is it the allegations of the president being part of a pedophile trafficking ring but doing his best to use his attorney general to cover it up? Is it the president ignoring the constitution and installing tariffs, deploying a federal police force to round up humans in concentration camps and, occasionally, outright murder them without due process? Is it the general dysfunction of the Congress that can’t seem to ever, ever pass a budget on time? Or how about the revolving door between lobbying firms and Congress and the fact that lobbyists write our legislation and it almost never has anything to do with what the voting public wants? Is it the absurd cost of healthcare? The mediocre education system? The rampant gun violence? Like, what right do you have to judge these other countries that are MUCH OLDER than America? America has broken down after just 250 years. Persia is THOUSANDS of years old. The Islamic republic is a blip of their history, while what is happening to us now seems to be the beginning of a total breakdown. [/quote] Drama queen. We’ve had 2 protesters shot and people are (rightfully) up in arms. Iran has killed 20k in 2 months. [b]I’d say our democracy is thriving, relatively speaking.[/b][/quote] Not relative to where we were a year or so ago. We are no longer the "shining city on the hill." [/quote] We treat women and gays better. [/quote] You’re right. The best way to treat women and gays over there is by killing them and their families, loved ones, and exploding their homes [/quote] Iran treats gays respectfully?[/quote] They pay for transgender surgery: the US doesnt even do that. [/quote] I certainly thought gays were mistreated in Iran. . https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64864132[/quote] Gays are mistreated in 90% of the world. Does that mean we go to war with 90% of the world? Israel has its own homophobia problem with far right government and the current US administration isn’t gay friendly either. Does that mean we should get invaded by Canada, a more liberal country? I’m so tired of the liberal interventionist argument for war. It’s not worth spilled blood. Did you read the stories of LGBt Gazans? They were heartbreaking. Many were already suffering inside but said that fear and suffering was not alleviated but only compounded when Israel killed their loved ones. One guys story made me cry when I read he wished he said I l love you and kissed before his crush died. None of these people love Hamas as you can imagine but they all suffered regardless because of it. Many here are pointing out Iranian immigrants here celebrating but don’t you think that means many Iranians inside the country also hate the regime? Does that mean they now deserve a war of the ages just because they’re run by aholes?[/quote] Liberal interventionist argument? Can you stay on topic? Liberals didn't start this war. [/quote] liberal interventionist has nothing to do with party in international relations. George w. Bush used similar logic about freedom and democracy with iraq. Trump used to make fun of those guys. Now he’s become one of them [/quote] Because Trump is now just as much a part of the hated "swamp" as Biden was.[/quote]
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