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Your glee at the unemployment of 13,706 people is nauseating. I am laying off all my staff because of the USAID shutdowns. The single moms, the dads with kids with cancer, the fresh-faced kids with their first apartment leases. And since my programs are shut down we aren’t stopping that Ebola outbreak in Uganda or preventing babies from getting Malaria in Nigeria. That’s what we all did all day. And we got paid the kind of salaries that people on this board scoff at, and we live in neighborhoods most of you won’t enter. Because we aren’t rolling in dough based on some big USAID fraud, right? We are nurses and social workers who use our skills in other countries.

What the F is WRONG with you?[/quote]

Why was USAID operating in Hungary?

https://rumble.com/v29a3te-usaid-in-hungary.html

Samantha Power didn't seem to think her mission was helping starving people in Africa, but rather building media operations to take out political opponents.[/quote]

Fascism has taken hold in Hungary. USAID projects provide soft diplomacy to promote democracy (in this case through a free press) as part of overall global stability efforts. There a reason authoritarian leaders or cheering on this effort to dismantle USAID.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/authoritarian-usaid-elon-musk

Please think through who is supporting the destruction if USAID and what they have to gain from it.[/quote]  Now you are agreeing that USAID has a primary mission of political interference.[/quote]

Stopping fascism is kind of important, no?[/quote]

DP. Not our job. I don’t want Russia buying Facebook ads interfering with our elections and I don’t want to interfere in the internal affairs of another country. Especially an EU member.

The more I learn about USAID from the people DEFENDING  USAID the more I dislike it.

Aid in the form of medicine, food, infrastructure development?  Awesome. Knock yourself out.

Empire building, journalism (propaganda) and meddling in the internal affairs of another country?  No thank you. And frankly, I’m not going to get worked up over Elon and Co. putting a stop to that garbage.

If stopping Orban is so important to you, feel free to go over there and do it yourself. But not in my name.[/quote]

It may not be "our job" but either we spend a few billion dollars on efforts such as USAID or else we spend trillions in ground wars, sacrificing American blood while destroying the business models of the US companies and the hundreds of thousands they employ around the country.

It is an investment in peace and stability.[/quote]

You now, arming and training the mujahideen to resist the USSR was an “investment in peace” that whipsawed back on us a couple decades later and directly resulted in trillions of dollars of ground wars and resulted in tens of thousands of American casualties and hundreds of thousands of lost civilian lives.

Maybe, just maybe, it is rational for some of us to believe that well intended foreign interventions can actually raise risks for our country? [/quote]

Is it perhaps rational that they decrease the risks for our country? Are you an international security expert?[/quote]

Of course. Reasonable minds can disagree.

But the people who are [b][i] defending[/i][/b] USAID in this thread are the ones accusing the rest of us of not being patriotic; of being nazi-enablers; of being surrender monkeys who care nothing for the safety of our country. I mean, Karl Rove used the same exact talking points twenty years ago.[/quote]

You don’t find it questionable to be on the same side as anti-democracy leaders in Venezuela, Iran, Hungary, and Russia, who are all celebrating the closure of USAID?

https://www.newsweek.com/usaid-authoritarian-trump-iran-russia-venezuela-nicaragua-2027789[/quote]

“Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.”

-George W. Bush, September 20, 2001

I am old enough to remember what a sh!t storm this statement caused. Never thought I would see this mentality embraced from the left side of the aisle. Good lord. The neoconservatives actually won.

Something about patriotism and dissent.

-Barack Obama.

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