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Rather than argue the case for UCal-Berkeley by denigrating existing Big Ten Conference member schools and by addressing a secondary issue, why not think more creatively ?

I suggested to Stanford that if Stanford can convince its good friend Notre Dame to join, then, with Notre Dame's endorsement & commitment, Stanford would almost certainly be welcomed with open arms.

I also suggested that the Big Ten Conference offer Notre Dame an additional home gain to entice ND to join the Big Ten Conference as well as a commitment by the Big Ten Conference to offer membership to one of its traditional rivals (Stanford University).

The Big Ten Conference has to respect Notre Dame and Notre Dame's vision for its football & athletic program.

Why do UCal-Berkeley supporters think that they can generate an offer by denigrating other universities ? It won't work.

Everyone regards UCal-Berkely & Stanford University as world class academic & academic research institutions and more. That just is not the issue.[/quote]

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