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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yeah.  I've been reading through the thread waiting for someone to tear apart the weak Russian propaganda like butter.. come on guys.  These were easy ones.

AIM-120 is an air-to-air missile and what's it's warhead weight?  44 lbs.  Bzzt.  You lose.  Ain't gonna blow up a hospital.  Same goes for cluster munitions - they're mostly anti-personnel or anti-tank.  While you'd think it causes a lot of damage, most of it is only shrapnel or shape charge.  Again, ain't gonna blow up a hospital.

Russia has solid relationships?  Pfft.  Russia is quickly becoming a Chinese vassal state, so in that sense I guess so?

And the one that takes the cake - the comment about Ukrainians fleeing.  Guess what cupcake, Russian Officers are lying to their own commanders.

"Russian military commanders have been falsely claiming to have taken certain towns or villages."
"They would regularly get hit because of their lying neighboring units. They exclaimed that certain places were taken, but then it turned out that they actually weren’t.”
“In reality, just like you, I have a feeling of anxious anticipation. I realize that summer is already in its second half and there hasn’t been any significant breakthrough on the frontlines, for many different reasons.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/desperate-russia-wild-lies-leave-180356313.html

But hey, whatever.  [/quote]

Within about 5 minutes of the missile hitting the building across the street from the hospital said this:  "The Russian military struck the Okhmatdyt hospital with a Kh-101 cruise missile, according to the preliminary data obtained by the State Security Service (SBU).

Fragments of the rear body of the Kh-101 cruise missile with a [b]serial number[/b] and part of the missile's rudder were found at the scene, the State Security Service said." [url]https://kyivindependent.com/russian-missile-attack-hits-okhmatdyt-children-hospital-casualties-reported/[/url]

Its been two days now, and no images of these parts or serial numbers have come out. Don't you find that odd? Why would Ukraine withhold this evidence?

Isolated vassal state also just announced another joint military production deal:
[twitter]https://x.com/Sputnik_India/status/1811281525364707448[/twitter]
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No images?  You are mistaken.  Images have been released, including the serial number.  It's also clear to see the missile's engine, which is a turbofan engine.  Anti-air missiles do not use turbofans.  Cruise missiles like the KH-101 use turbofans.

[img]https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/ftcms%3A7613fb38-856d-421b-809c-6ac1649c3436?source=next-article&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&width=700&dpr=1[/img]

https://www.ft.com/content/ef463ac9-4804-4ad7-b9a2-c113590f2f96

This was a Russian cruise missile.  There is no longer any denying it.[/quote]

Do you have anything not behind a paywall? The image with the number seems very sketch, since they look like they were hand stenciled on after the explosion and not stamped on before the explosion like most Russian missiles.

Here is an image from two years ago for example: [url]https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/81bc6b71fdc64361a05a21020c3d6d5e?ref=kyivindependent.fourthestate.app[/url]

Here's one from 2018: [img]https://mf.b37mrtl.ru/files/2018.09/original/5b9f7e13fc7e9388678b45a7.jpg[/img]

And another: [img]https://www.rbc.ua/static/ckef2/img/image_1160.png[/img][/quote]

Serial number doesn't even matter.  It's the ENGINE that proves it.  The engine in the photo is clearly a turbo jet.  And, a turbo jet intake can also be seen in the images of the missile before it exploded.   Turbo jet engines ARE NOT USED in anti-air missiles.  The ENGINE came from a LONG RANGE CRUISE MISSILE.  The missile is 100% not a Patriot missile or any kind of anti-air missile because none of them use turbo jets for propulsion.[/quote]

Funny how "we have the serial number" 5 minutes after the attack has now turned into "please ignore this clearly faked serial number." We are honest people trust us, we didn't wait 3 days and move parts from the actual X-101s that hit the Artyom factory. Please trust us. Pretty please with AD systems on top? [/quote]

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