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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think most of her fans haven’t really read much poetry or heard many other singers (outside of pop). So to them she is the most talented. So many are convinced her success is driven solely by pure talent and she is the most successful because she is the most talented. That view really just shows a very small world of music and art. Which for children is fine - but adults should be aware that there is a much bigger and talented world out there.

She is also in a phase of everything she touches turns to good right now. I could take any lyrics or song written by anyone…and if her fans thought she wrote it - they would be the most amazing lyrics ever written by the most talented musician ever. [/quote]

+1, this nails it. She's a great pop musician. She is not Emily Dickinson and Beethoven rolled into one. It's enough that she is a success at what she actually is, we don't have to pretend she's the second coming.[/quote]

Interesting how far back you had to go to come up with a genius. [b]Why would young people today read much or care about poetry? [/b]Have you seen how watered down their required HS reading is? Schools don't care to teach classics anymore. What current literary genius should any of them listen to? [/quote]

I'm the PP and here are 5 modern poets off the top of my head that I think young people today would benefit from reading: Mary Oliver (dead but still so relevant), Maggie Smith, Morgan Parker, Ilya Kaminsky, Ada Limón. This is scratching the surface, get a book on 20th century poetry, there is so much greatness out there.

For musicians, I'd be expansive. All the pop/rock great (including Swift) but also Sondheim, Gershwin, Bernstein. The jazz greats -- Mingus, Davis, Monk, and also the stylists like Holliday, Porter, Fitzgerald. Contemporary singer/songwriters like Courtney Barnett, Kurt Vile, Rufus Wainwright. But also look back a bit. Stevie Nicks, Lucinda Williams, George Clinton, Tom Waits. You could go on and on and on and on.

Taylor Swift is talented. Taylor Swift is talented. Taylor Swift is talented. She is not everything, there are so many other people to listen to and read and investigate and internalize. If you seriously cannot name a single contemporary writer or musician who you think is as talented, interesting, and worth reading/listening to as Taylor Swift, you are an idiot and your opinion is to be disregarded.[/quote]

Nobody is going to listen to their grandparents, great-grandparents music. This is all very old man shaking fist at the clouds.[/quote]

If you don't realize that some of the people listed above are contemporaries of Taylor Swift, and many others are just one generation behind (and therefore directly informing the culture and art that Taylor is working in), then I beg of you, try reading something OTHER than Taylor Swift liner notes.[/quote]

I don't even listen to TS but my daughter does. But I also don't listen to shitty jazz music and some of the other questionable choices you listed. To each their own but young people want their own music. There's nothing stopping them from listening to these dusty choices but they don't. Each generation wants their own music. And perhaps modern poetry doesn't speak to them either. For whatever reason, Taylor does. Maybe it's just not for you to understand. [/quote]

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