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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's funny how cyclists go on and on about how dangerous the roads are, and how we have to spend billions of dollars to protect cyclists, but when you look at the stats, you see that on average there's *one* cyclist death in DC per year.

And then when you point out that, so far this year, there are 259 murders and 5,125 violent crimes, and both of those are up by one third from last year, they say "oh well, that's city living for you. Crime is rare anyway."

I guess the difference is the cyclist killed is white and the people murdered mostly are black. [/quote]

Why do people constantly make this weird comparison? Yes, crime is bad and mostly affects black people. I, a white person who rides a bike to get to work and do errands, don't want people to be victims of crime, nor do I want them to be hit by a car. (Whether they're hit by a car and killed or hit by a car without being killed.) I don't understand what one policy has to do with the other except that people seem to think that the existence of crime means the city can't possibly spend any money on anything else (a theory that apparently only actually comes into play when the "anything else" is bike lanes).[/quote]

Hot take... the murder rate can be too damn high and so can the death by reckless driver at the same time.  And good news, there are constructive ways to address both issues.  And you can want bike lanes and fewer murders/violent crimes.  I sure do.

I mean the whole *country* of Norway had a 110 deadly crashes in a recent year - and Oslo is about 800k people, similar to DC.  We had almost half as many crashes in our city as their whole country of 5.5 million people! They also only had like 80 gun-related homicides in a year recently (we blew way past that here in DC).  In the whole freaking country.

We've got serious problems - not just in DC, but generally here.  259 murders in DC is the equivalent of a South Sudan or Algeria number of gun deaths.  These are all the *countries* with lower number of gun-related murders than DC (our stats are 259 and ~38.0!):

Country / Gun Deaths / Rate per 100k
Brunei	1	0.22
Kiribati	1	0.75
Andorra	1	1.25
Bermuda	1	1.56
Northern Mariana Islands	1	2.01
American Samoa	1	2.28
Marshall Islands	1	2.38
Monaco	1	2.76
San Marino	1	2.97
Fiji	2	0.21
Maldives	2	0.38
Grenada	2	1.58
Seychelles	2	1.86
Singapore	3	0.05
Samoa	3	1.33
Micronesia	3	2.60
Dominica	3	4.11
Oman	4	0.09
Mauritius	4	0.31
Bhutan	4	0.51
Iceland	4	1.07
Sao Tome and Principe	4	1.73
Guam	4	2.31
Malta	5	0.93
Vanuatu	5	1.49
Antigua and Barbuda	6	6.36
Qatar	7	0.26
Luxembourg	8	1.22
Bahrain	9	0.61
Saint Kitts and Nevis	9	18.85
Greenland	11	19.42
Timor Leste	13	0.96
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines	13	12.54
Equatorial Guinea	15	0.87
Barbados	15	5.32
Estonia	16	1.21
Kuwait	18	0.42
Cyprus	19	1.51
Saint Lucia	20	11.10
Moldova	22	0.64
United States Virgin Islands	23	23.29
Latvia	25	1.37
Solomon Islands	27	3.65
Lithuania	28	1.03
Gabon	28	1.15
Montenegro	28	4.47
Suriname	28	4.49
Ireland	29	0.57
Mongolia	30	0.87
Gambia	30	1.08
Comoros	30	3.52
Romania	31	0.16
Slovenia	36	1.70
Bosnia and Herzegovina	37	1.15
Tajikistan	39	0.38
South Korea	44	0.08
Kyrgyzstan	46	0.68
North Macedonia	46	2.21
New Zealand	48	0.92
Armenia	50	1.80
Taiwan	51	0.21
Djibouti	51	4.49
Azerbaijan	55	0.53
Hungary	56	0.55
Turkmenistan	57	0.87
Uzbekistan	58	0.16
Denmark	64	1.08
Eswatini	64	5.29
Libya	70	1.02
Albania	70	2.47
Slovakia	75	1.29
Norway	77	1.41
Cuba	78	0.70
Tunisia	79	0.63
Lebanon	82	1.53
Bahamas	82	19.87
Belize	82	19.96
Netherlands	85	0.48
Guinea Bissau	87	4.04
United Arab Emirates	89	0.94
Mauritania	89	1.83
Republic of the Congo	90	1.47
Guyana	92	11.30
North Korea	93	0.36
Liberia	93	1.72
Croatia	98	2.44
Japan	101	0.08
Georgia	103	2.76
Namibia	105	4.03
Belarus	108	1.14
Poland	112	0.27
Botswana	120	4.49
Bulgaria	121	1.81
Papua New Guinea	141	1.36
Greece	148	1.43
Sweden	152	1.43
Sierra Leone	158	1.80
Finland	161	2.90
United Kingdom	162	0.24
Malaysia	179	0.52
Lesotho	182	7.81
Central African Republic	188	3.27
Nepal	192	0.62
Laos	192	2.52
Jordan	195	1.72
Cambodia	200	1.18
Israel	201	2.19
Kazakhstan	209	1.07
Portugal	211	2.06
Trinidad and Tobago	221	14.40
Burundi	222	1.68
Nicaragua	226	3.21
Belgium	228	1.95
Austria	237	2.65
Switzerland	239	2.72
Australia	241	0.91
Senegal	241	1.36
Rwanda	251	1.78
Zimbabwe	253	1.52
Algeria	254	0.56[/quote]

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