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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]https://research.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/VOR_FY22.pdf

Michigan receives over $1,000,000,000 yearly in funding from sources other than the NIH.  That’s still more than Berkeley.  Internally funded research is also over $500,000,000.  [/quote]

Michigan and Berkeley would consider each other academic peers but not peers with places like Minnesota, Purdue, or Michigan State. I think the point is more Berkeley would clearly be in the top few academic schools in the B1G and not close to the bottom as someone was trying to hint at [b]with some strange funding stats. [/b]If it is the #1 or #3 overall public research university in the country, that is splitting hairs.[/quote]

Is this a reference to the Federal Government's National Science Foundation R&D Expenditures report ?
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Yes.  The source of all strange funding stats.  [/quote]

Why are they "strange" ? Because they don't suit your agenda ?

If you go to the NSF page, you can get breakdowns of the R&D funding expenditures. Some schools have medical school R&D Expenditures included while others do not for various reasons--which apply to all of the 1,000 or so schools contained in the report.

Understand that almost all research dollars are brought in by graduate programs--not 100%, but the overwhelming majority.

UCal-Berkeley enthusiasts also complain each year about the school's ranking in US News. All of the schools are judged by the same standards, yet Cal fans think that it should be treated differently. Fine. US News also gives a public university ranking which rates UC-Berkeley quite high.

I understand the disappointment and frustration of UCal-Berkeley & Stanford supporters. The collapse of the Pac-12 after 108 years likely will have a serious, noticeable impact upon both schools. Nobody is rejoicing; in fact, many are working hard to figure out a solution. However, ignorance based denigration existing Big Ten Conference members is probably not the best tactic to charm the Big Ten Conference into extending an offer.[/quote]

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