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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Here’s the thing: even if Neely had punched someone in the face, Penny would still be facing charges and likely get convicted.

Why? Because Penny’s use of force was disproportionate. Neely was subdued on the ground by 3 adult men and Penny continued to choke him until the life liquidated out of Neely’s orifices.

Those are the gruel facts. A claim of self-defense or defense of others has to be proportionate to immediacy and severity of the threat at hand. Once again, you can’t kill someone because of “bad vibes.” It doesn’t work like that.[/quote]

What if a woman kills a person trying to rape her? Does she need to consider proportionate force?[/quote]

Lordy this is a tortured Strawman argument. Do you even hear yourself?[/quote]

PP here. Strawman argument? I think not. When someone feels threatened, they should have the right to protect themselves. [/quote]

There’s a Grand Canyon between killing your rapist (ie, experiencing a physical act of violence) and killing the crazy guy on the train ranting to himself.

So yeah, it’s a dumb strawman argument to compare those two scenarios.

If I think you’re a rapist, am I allowed to kill you? I feel like you’re giving off rape’y vibes. [/quote]

Kudos to you for being such a calm, rational person who thoughtfully employs proportionate violence in the face of danger. (I don't believe you really are.)[/quote]

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