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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP again, as promised:

From a discussion on the Infidels blog:

#1 The sequence of base pairs in DNA is a code.

#2  All codes that we know the origin of come from a mind.

#3  Therefore DNA came from a mind.

4 months and 500 some posts later, still standing.

PP, this is one way to show God exists by logical argument based on things observed in this world.

But as I said a long time ago, the intellect only informs the will.  It cannot force it.  That is why atheists and theists can look at the same evidence, and disagree on the conclusion.[/quote]

Weird, given that PP rebutted this quite handily only a few posts ago.  The fallacy here is actually quite obvious:  using the word "code" begs the question.  Let me know if you want me to elaborate.

Completely fatuous argument.[/quote].

I do care.  But I won't have the chance to post again for a while.  In the meantime, please feel free to raise objections.  Infidels were not able to disprove it over several months, but who knows?  Maybe there is something new under the sun.[/quote]

The arguments fallacious because it takes poetic license as one of its assumed premises.  DNA is a "code".  And a code is defined as something that an intelligence encodes with symbols to signify something to another intelligence.

Therefore, DNA is proof of an intelligent designer.

Only DNA is not a code.  That's a convenient metaphor biologists use to explain it.

It's like the argument:

1) Life is a gift.
2) But a gift needs a "giver".
3) God is the giver.

Sorry, but it's a stupid argument.  I actually found the home page of the guy making it, and there's a photo of him pointing his finger at a sign in a museum that says, "DNA is a code..."

DNA is a code in the same sense that the geological formation of mountains is code to tell trees where to grow.  (How mountains are created then erode encodes the "tree-line".)

The fact that your author still hasn't managed to wrap his head around this simple critique after "4 months and 500 posts" is evidence of his supreme, irrational pig-headedness...nothing else.[/quote]

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