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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]When I was 14, we partied at the house of a senior boy because his parents were there and allowed it. They got drunk with us. Are you pedo cheerleaders saying these parents shouldn’t have been held accountable? We all knew we were too young to drink. What if they just said we looked 21? Where were our parents, you ask? They were at home, thinking we were at a friend’s house or at the movies. Were you people not ever teenagers sneaking around and making poor decisions?[/quote]
Sure but I never went to a private island on a leer jet belonging to a 50 year old man. Out of the supposed 1000s of girls, not one parent inquired about this? No one said hey, wait, what? You are going away for a few days?! All these parents were gullible fools?[/quote]

Why would these monsters target girls with involved responsible parents? It would be the opposite.[/quote]
I am curious how they identified teens with irresponsible parents just by looking at them. This was even prior to social media, so it was purely based on how the girls looked? This is so bizarre.[/quote]

Wow, there is really no length that you won’t go to somehow blame someone else. Congratulations?

It’s really weird, but whatever, that’s why it’s anonymous here. I’d hope that you’d never express this out loud in real life.[/quote]
Why!? What is wrong with my opinion? I would and have expressed this irl. You don’t find this bizarre and unbelievable? Something stinks here. I think some parents must have been complicit, I cannot believe thousands of teens fell for this. [/quote]

NP, so I have several thoughts:

First, I appreciate the thankless work of the commenter/s who have been tirelessly pushing back against the r*pe apologists and/or political hacks who keep flooding the thread. It’s exhausting but important to openly push back against those types of messages every. single. time.

Second, on this comment, I assume some of the parents did know and failed to protect their kids. Look at the Michael Jackson stories, with the parents dropping their kids off for sleepovers. It doesn’t excuse the crimes or those who committed and enabled those crimes, but it’s still an interesting situation to try to understand. How could parents possibly be that blind or that greedy, to simply offer up the children they were supposed to protect?

Finally, those types of questions and have gotten me curious about learning more of the factual background here, but I’m having trouble finding a deep dive. People have mentioned Julie K Brown, but the Miami Herald has a paywall and I’m not sure I’m quite interested enough to read her whole book. Can anyone point to a good source for the whole story? [/quote]
There are older threads here with lots of links.
Big thread when Miami Herald story broke: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/768342.page
Short thread when Dershowitz was fingered with lots of links:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/798904.page
Thread after Epstein’s arrest covering that and the subsequent developments: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/816762.page
Thread from a year ago similar to this one:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1188622.page

Vicky Ward on how she tried to get this story out in 2003 but her editor Graydon Carter shut it down:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epsteins-sick-story-played-out-for-years-in-plain-sight/?via=twitter_page

Also Julie Brown has been on a ton of podcasts this week including The Atlantic today. The biggest question she wants answered is who in the Bush DOJ originally said we need to treat this guy with kid gloves. Tina Brown on the Daily Beast podcast today also goes back to the beginning - she was editing either Vanity Fair or the New Yorker  when Conchita Sarnoff first published a whole series of articles about him, she eventually wrote a book called TrafficKing.[/quote]
Vicky Ward is vindicated 
[twitter]https://x.com/vickypjward/status/2017324524862075302?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg[/twitter][/quote]

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