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This particular deranged murderer made a lot of noise and managed to kill (I think) just two people. The very list of knife events you reject demonstrates how quickly the body count can rise with a committed knife attacker. Bladed weapons were responsible for industrial-strength slaughter for millennia.  [/quote]
Besides the two dead, there were 17 injured including 14 children.    Many of these (especially among those classified as being in critical condition) will likely be crippled for life.

Also note that the murderer shot at the children through the Church windows.      This is something that could not be done with a knife.      Yes, a committed knife attacker can kill multiple people, but it is much, much easier done with a gun.[/quote]

Also BFR. If you were shopping at Target with your kids and a crazy violent person came into the store, would you rather they have an AR-15 or a knife? … there is only one sane answer here [/quote]
An ER doctor wrote an oped about the damage that an AR15 does to the body compared to a single shot pistol.  He stated that  most victims of one shot gun shot wounds can be saved, but the damage to a victim from an AR15 was basically like a blender came through the insides of the person.

There is no reason for an AR15, that's for sure.  [/quote]

The terminal ballistics of a 5.56 rifle bullet are relatively unpredictable and depend on, among other things, the weight and jacket material of the bullet, its design, the propellant used, and the length and twist rate of the barrel, as well as the range from which the wound is inflicted, and the build and clothing of the individual struck. Even when all else is equal, two different 5.56 wounds can vary from a small through and through wound to one with greater tissue destruction. The AR15 is popular but it is not the only firearm that uses 5.56 ammunition. And not all AR15’s use that round.[b] The idea that a bullet wound is ever “like a blender came through a person” is simply ridiculous hyperbole. [/b][/quote]

Not hyperbole when it hits a child.

-RN[/quote]

From your alleged sample size of?[/quote]
I trust the experts more than some ammosexual anonymous poster.
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"Instead of just being sort of point on straight through, there's more erratic passage of the bullet through the victim so the extent of tissue damage is greater," Shapiro explained.

What's more, assault weapons can cause a process called cavitation to occur, meaning it creates a large cavity in the body, destroying tissues and organs.

"The difference with high velocity bullets and military-grade weapons...is the damage they inflict on the human body and our internal organs are much more gruesome and tend to have what is known as a blast effect, because that bullet is carrying so much energy with it as it enters the human body," Griggs said. "Instead of, for example, if the bullet traveled through the lung, instead of a hole in the lung, we're looking at an exploded lung."

Griggs explained that the same holds true if a bullet hits a human bone. A bullet from a handgun that hits a bone might fracture the bone, but a bullet from a semi-automatic rifle might shatter the bone due to the high velocity.

[b]"Children, their organs are a lot more compact, and they have a lot less fat surrounding their vital organs," Griggs said. "And so, you can imagine that a bullet that is causing a blast effect inside their body, inside their abdomen or their torso or their chest, it's not just going to explode, or tear apart, their lung, but also their heart. Not just going to completely shatter their liver, but also their spleen, causing catastrophic fatal bleeding."

"When we see a child who has been shot with an AR-15-style rifle, there is often very little hope -- depending on where the bullet has hit them in their body -- that we can save their life even if they make it to the hospital," she said. "And devastatingly, the children who were shot in Nashville were dead on arrival to the hospital. There's nothing that trauma surgery team could do and that is very classic of what we have come to see as the norm."[/b]
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https://abc7.com/post/why-ar15-semi-automatic-weapons-dangerous/13051721/

You ammosexuals have a mental illness.[/quote]

There are probably a thousand different models of rifles that shoot the exact same bullet as an AR15. I cannot understand this fetish-like fixation some of you seem to have with this particular gun. Can any of you explain it? [/quote]

DP, but that makes it even easier. Just outlaw this type of bullet. It’s not good for hunting because it will destroy the meat. There’s less destructive means for self defense. If there is some sort of rationale for needing a bullet that can pulverize children’s’ organs then people can apply for an exception with clear proof of their intent to use them. [/quote]

“This type of bullet” is typically a full metal jacketed spitzer projectile that is virtually universal across rifle types and calibers. [/quote]

DP. People who want to ban AR-15s are wrong when they say "it will destroy the meat," but it's also a mistake to act like there's no reason mass shootings like this are so often committed with weapons like an AR-15. A rifle is generally more lethal than a handgun and an intermediate cartridge like most ARs are chambered in is relatively easy for a less experienced shooter to fire rapidly because it has less recoil than a full size cartridge, and you don't need a .30-06 to kill elementary schoolers.

I don't know that that means they should be banned, but disingenuous to act like the design of the rifle isn't relevant.[/quote]

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