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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This bill

1. Cuts $930 Billion from Medicaid
2. 16M people will lose health insurance
3. Slashes food assistance for poor families by $186 Billion
4. Lowers incomes for bottom 40% of families
5. Increases deficit by $3.3 Trillion dollars
6. $45 Billion for new immigration jails and another several hundred billion for more ICE forces
7. Billions for defense contractors

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The funny thing is the defense contractors are going to lose the NATO market. This will drive cost way up. The only country who will “buy” our weapons will be Israel and they really do not buy the weapons. We give the weapons. [/quote]

What weapons are you talking about? I completely disagree but I’m more in a niche weapons field.[/quote]

Pretty much everything we make. From f-35, artillery, air/missile defense, offensive missiles, satellite surveillance, electronic warfare, signal intelligence etc, etc. Europe has come to the conclusion that the US is not a reliable ally. US systems are dependent on the US willingness to supply parts, maintenance and updates. The US weapons are extremely expensive. Plus the back logs are crazy. Look at the US submarines sales to Australia. What is the turn around time 10-15 years? Australia will most likely buy the French submarines. ATACMS Have a what 2-3 year back log?

Europe is building out their defense industry and US weapons are not going to be a part of it. Europe does not need f-35 and other extremely expensive weapon systems to defend Europe. Read up on what is happening in Europe. They are going it alone as quickly as possible.

Also you do not need systems like the f-35 or f-47 to defeat Russia crappy weapons and Israel is planning to attack Turkey. Which side will the US land on if that happens?

[quote] PARIS — European nations are in the process of pouring billions of dollars into their defense budgets, individually and collectively, quickly becoming one of the hottest growth markets for defense on the planet. As Anduril executive Greg Kausner put it, the continent is “having a moment right now.”

And at this year’s Paris Air Show, it was evident that the influx of cash has caught the attention of American companies eager to expand their customer base and to do what they can to dive, Scrooge McDuck-style, into that new European pot of money.

But nailing down contracts may not be so easy. Geopolitical tensions between Washington and European capitals have pushed European officials to look more to European solutions, favoring — and in some cases mandating — domestic production of defense articles to reinforce national sovereignty.
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https://breakingdefense.com/2025/06/europe-is-pouring-money-into-defense-can-us-firms-reap-the-reward-amid-trans-atlantic-tension/

[quote] Increased defense spending could significantly boost Europe’s economic growth and industrial base if outlays are targeted at high-tech, regionally made armaments. A new Kiel Report by the Kiel Institute shows that gross domestic product (GDP) could increase by 0.9 percent to 1.5 percent per year if governments raised annual defense spending from the NATO target of 2 percent to 3.5 percent of GDP and shifted from buying weapons designed and mainly made in the USA to home-grown innovations[/quote]
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/news/guns-and-growth-the-economic-consequences-of-surging-defense-spending/

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/06/business/europe-military-spending-economic-growth-intl

https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/how-much-will-rising-defense-spending-boost-europes-economy

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/3/21/europe-working-on-plan-to-replace-us-in-nato-in-five-to-10-years-report

The European press is even better with its coverage. 
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