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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm through with trying to reason with someone who has ZERO interest in anything but protecting this MS13 gang member.[/quote] He appears to have been a wife beater but there is zero proof of him being "MS-13". Grow up![/quote] That’s a great argument. He beats his Wife, but he’s a good guy. Keep defending him, now we know you’re ok with wife beaters. [/quote] Which US law implements a punishment of life imprisonment in cruel and unusual conditions for domestic violence? He may not be a wonderful person but the real argument here is not whether he's a good person or not, it's whether the US should be able to send people to countries that will violate their human rights. So either you're too stupid to understand the bigger picture or you're in support of violating every ideal that makes America what it is. Which is it? Idiot or fascist?[/quote] He was sent to his home country and they are keeping him in jail because they think he’s a gang member. [b]Your argument is we have the authority and/or obligation to keep a citizen of another country in the USA even though they have not been convicted of a crime? So at this point we should keep ALL El Salvador citizens that are currently in the USA from leaving right?[/b] You’re either too stupid to understand the USA has zero say in what ANY country does with their own people, or think international law does not matter. Which is it? Stupid or uneducated?[/quote] YES! Are you kidding?! Did you think this was some sort of "gotcha?!" Everyone on American soil is entitled to American justice which means we don't send people from American soil to places where they will be subject to conditions America has deemed unacceptable for humans. Even if we accept your premise as true that America has zero say in what any country does with their own people (which isn't even true to begin with considering America's LONG history of interfering with other countries) it's completely irrelevant because THE PEOPLE ARE IN AMERICA FIRST YOU ABSOLUTE DUNCE! We may have zero say in what they do but when they're in America we can JUST NOT SEND THEM TO THE PLACE WHERE THEIR RIGHTS WILL BE VIOLATED AND WE HAVE ZERO SAY IN IT! This is so incredibly obvious to anyone with a brain that it leads to the conclusion that you're either too stupid to live or you actually understand this fact and don't care because you view brown people as not deserving of human rights.[/quote] 1. He’s currently not in the USA so we have no authority. 2. I’m brown you moron. [/quote] He was in the USA before we sent him to a torture camp. While he was here we had every opportunity to not send him to a torture camp. We are discussing theory and policy, and in such a discussion things may be discussed that are not dangling in front of you like a string in front of a cat, or are you so stupid that you don't understand object permanence? Oh who am I kidding, you're a fascist, of course you are so stupid you don't understand object permanence.[/quote] DP. Wow, calling a brown guy stupid. Are all brown people stupid to you, Mr racist?[/quote] Nobody is buying that BS so don’t waste your time. [/quote]
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