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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The cruelty seems to be the point. [/quote]
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You should probably also post this in the Roe thread. The women who consider themselves to be pro life should probably come to grips with the fact that the GOP will kill them, too, if they get the chance, that being the “right” kind of woman isn’t protection. [/quote]

1 in 50 pregnancies is ectopic.  [/quote]

And 1 in 8 ends in miscarriage. An incomplete miscarriage will kill a woman just as quickly as an ectopic pregnancy.  [/quote]

Cannot stop thinking about the night I ended up in the ER at 2am with an incomplete miscarriage. I fear for women who end up in that position going forward.[/quote]

I’ve been having nightmares about sitting in the ER waiting room when my ectopic pregnancy ruptured.  I’d been there 12 hours because I was the bottom of the list, with significant pain, an IUD and a positive pregnancy test. Triage told me the test was wrong or I didn’t do it right because pregnancy wasn’t possible with an IUD (spoiler alert, it is). They’d get around to me if they had a chance.  My MD had told me if I got pregnant with the IUD there was a high likelihood it would be ectopic and to go immediately to the ER. The delay in care and slow walking when I was in so much pain and knew I had a potentially life threatening situation was terrifying. As was the rupture and immediate rush into surgery at midnight.

I experienced PTSD symptoms for about a year after this happened.  In 2007. And now they are back.

These states are absolutely barbaric. [/quote]

Be thankful your Drs had been trained on medical procedures associated with abortion to save your life. No education and training is being limited in Red states so best of luck even if a woman is able to be on deaths door and need asssitance that is approved by the lawyers/judges. Finding a Dr. to perform it will still be hard as the new cohorts aren't being trainined. [/quote]

Oh, for God's SAKE, doctors are trained specifically in 'abortion techniques' when it comes to ending an ectopic pregnancy and D&Cs.  How deliberately misleading. Education and training in these SURGICAL techniques is NOT being limited. D&Cs are routine for women for all sorts of issues that don't involve pregnancy. Only the extreme political idiots think that ectopic pregnancies are not life threatening.

I really wish people here were not so emotional - it leads to abjectly stupid statements[/quote]

And I wish people like you were not so convinced that just because you went to Cornell, you know everything about medicine and law. Guess what, you don't.  Just because you think doctors SHOULD know how to perform D&Cs and ectopic terminations because "those are not abortions" does not make it so. Dobbs is the tail end of years and years of tightenting restrictions on reproductive health, and yes, this means that training on D&Cs is hindered, and many hospitals have regressive policies that limit available treatments for ectopic terminations. [/quote]

Well in today’s New York Times there’s a story about a Tennessee woman with an nonviable pregnancy that was life threatening if not removed and couldn’t get an abortion in her home state of Tennessee because she was more than 6 weeks pregnant because the doctors were too afraid of the legal risk.  So she went to Georgia instead where abortion is still legal til 22 weeks (til now.)

‘They’re Just Going to Let Me Die?’ One Woman’s Abortion Odyssey
Madison Underwood was thrilled to learn she was pregnant. But when a rare defect in the developing fetus threatened her life, she was thrust into post-Roe chaos.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/01/us/abortion-journey-crossing-states.html[/quote]

The part about her family praying over the abortion just shows how sick anti-abortionists are.  This is their own child and grandchild whose life could be in danger if she continues a pregnancy where the fetal defects are incompatible with life, and still they were praying that something would happen to stop her from having an abortion.  Apparently they don’t love her enough to want her to survive, the only interest is in a fetus thy at cannot.[/quote]

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