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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My daughter’s club in California (ECNL-Girls MLSN-Boys) just had our age group change meeting lat night.

For the girls this is strictly Aug-July change, if a player wants to stay and play up that is decided by each individual coach/player, a players who is Aug-Dec wants to play with the age group closer aligned with their school grade will be allowed but again it’s up to each coach and families to decide based on playing time and other factors. No Aug-Dec player will be forced up.

Boys is still BY and nothing changes. However players who are Aug-Dec ca get additional playing time on the MLS2 team that switches to SY. Also a player who is Aug-Dec 2011 will be 2011/12 U15 next year for MLS2 they can bioband down to play in the U14 2012/2013 age groups.

Are club will also allow girls 2011 to bioband down and play 2012/2013 boys to get extra playing time and development opportunities.
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A better way to put this is Aug birthdays can choose to try out on the correct grade A team or the A team a grade down. However coaches (and clubs) decide who makes the team. Clubs dont want Aug birthdays playing down on A teams and will offer players that choose to play down the option of playing on the correct grade in school B team or the grade down B team. Parents will choose the correct grade in school B team because playing on a grade down B team would hurt their ego too much and either way their kid doesnt want to be on a team with kids a grade below them.[/quote]

Your example here basically says that all August players should be stuck on B team no matter what they do.  That's not reality.[/quote] Ironically August players being the oldest will be the month with the most on top teams. Because nobody cares about grades when the leagues said Aug1 to July 31 and teams don't want players. playing up because it puts them and the teams at a disadvantage.[/quote]
And will be ignored by college coaches when they try to get recruited.[/quote]Got any college coaches to go on record with your baseless theory? Cause they told clubs the opposite.[/quote]
College coaches dont need to tell clubs or leagues how to present players. They'll just ignore the play downs and move onto the clubs that provide players the way they want them presented.[/quote]"Will" Got any evidence or just your opinion?[/quote]
Most people that have played sports are sickened by the patheticness of choosing to play down.

Also if you have100 players all playing on a correct grade in school team and competing for 3-4 roster spots why would anyone waste their time looking at play downs?[/quote]

August players who are misaligned on grade would not be playing down if they play ON AGE with a lower grade. Guess what they would be doing? Playing ON AGE within the new age groups.

Guess what they would be doing if they played on grade? They would be PLAYING UP.

Is it that difficult to understand?

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Most of the August kids I know started school a year late, so they will be with the correct grade under SY. Which, I assume, is fine with Delusional August Guy? I can't follow his logic so I'm not sure.[/quote]
August birthdays play ON THEIR GRADE IN SCHOOL team. How do you not understand that this means they can potentially be playing up or down. It all depends on when the school district they are part of chose as a cutoff.

Some will be the oldest snd some will be the youngest. Its not a parent or club decision about which level players are rostered.

It you want your Aug birthday to play down so badly and you live in a district which makes them the youngest in club just hold them back a yrar in school. This will put them on the grade younger team and everything will be aligned. [/quote]
BTW this is why everyone was laughing and making fun of you when you started commenting your nonsense on the New Jersey talking soccer thread.

The school cutoff in New Jersey is late Sept. This means they have Aug and Sept players that can be rostered either way. Which likely equates to 20% of each age level. You simply cant do "case by case" for 20% of the players on each team it doesnt scale. There has to be some kind of rule that's easily applied to all players. This why the New Jersey clubs are grouping Aug Sept birthdays by grade. It gets parents off coaches backs and addresses issues like recruiting and the 8th grade team with 9th grade high school soccer players.

Places like New Jersey and Wisconsin are telling parents that they plan to group Aug Sept players by grade because its more of an issue for them. NOVA clubs are being arrogant stupid and stubborn because thats what dumb sports people do when they get forced into reality and arent smart enough to understand whats happening around them. As fall gets closer and clubs start being forced to roster Aug birthdays. They'll figure it out and they'll roster the same way as New Jersey.[/quote]For NOVA, what happens in NJ and Wisconsin to a handful of their teams doesn't matter here. With those club are losing more because their players are younger on average, its not sustainable for them.

The easiest rule applied to all players is 8/1, very limited play up and it's skill based. Especially with birthdays documentable but grades aren't. It's why leagues and NOVA teams picked dates not grades. That's not going to change.[/quote]

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