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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My daughter’s club in California (ECNL-Girls MLSN-Boys) just had our age group change meeting lat night.

For the girls this is strictly Aug-July change, if a player wants to stay and play up that is decided by each individual coach/player, a players who is Aug-Dec wants to play with the age group closer aligned with their school grade will be allowed but again it’s up to each coach and families to decide based on playing time and other factors. No Aug-Dec player will be forced up.

Boys is still BY and nothing changes. However players who are Aug-Dec ca get additional playing time on the MLS2 team that switches to SY. Also a player who is Aug-Dec 2011 will be 2011/12 U15 next year for MLS2 they can bioband down to play in the U14 2012/2013 age groups.

Are club will also allow girls 2011 to bioband down and play 2012/2013 boys to get extra playing time and development opportunities.
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A better way to put this is Aug birthdays can choose to try out on the correct grade A team or the A team a grade down. However coaches (and clubs) decide who makes the team. Clubs dont want Aug birthdays playing down on A teams and will offer players that choose to play down the option of playing on the correct grade in school B team or the grade down B team. Parents will choose the correct grade in school B team because playing on a grade down B team would hurt their ego too much and either way their kid doesnt want to be on a team with kids a grade below them.[/quote]

Your example here basically says that all August players should be stuck on B team no matter what they do.  That's not reality.[/quote]
Whats going is clubs (and college recruiters) only want grade in school teams. It's easier for them and its better for players. Unfortunately some parents want to play against younger players and will do anything to make it happen. Theres ways to address all issues and make everything 100% clea avoiding the Aug Sept playing down issue but it requires an additional level of verification. Clubs make more money if they have "flexibility" and can roster Aug Sept players however they want and its easier to have a single level of verification.[/quote]

"Unfortunately some parents want to play against younger players and will do anything to make it happen."

You must have an agenda, right? You realize that to August players could be in two different grades depending on when they were sent to school by their parents? As a matter of fact the younger August player could be in a higher grade than an older August player from the same year. You really do seem like you have an agenda.[/quote]
I've consistently said Aug birthday players should be rostered on their grade in school team. Where's the agenda? As you identified this Aug birthday players can play on 2 different teams. It all depends on which grade they are in school.[/quote]

So you're consistently being a moron after being told a million times there are no grade in school leagues
It goes by age, month and year DOB

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Just because you want your kid to play down against younger players doesnt mean grade in school doesnt exist. It 100% does exist in teams 8th grade year when play downs that are in 9th grade and do high school soccer. It also exists when college coaches ignore play downs when recruiting.

Since you want to play down so badly just hold your Aug birthday back in school and they'll be aligned iclub. Or put your kid in a private school and play in a non club league.[/quote]

We heard your emotional desperate opinions 
Now show the link where US Soccer or ECNL announced the forming of brackets grouped as 6th Grade, 8th Grade, 10th Grade?

We see 8/1 to 7/30 and we see U12, U15

Take your time [/quote]
You mean like this?

https://labreakersfc.com/club/tryouts[/quote]

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You didn't think we'd notice the column heading says, "Typical school grade"?

If it were grouped by school grade, there would be only one column saying "School Grade"

Not U12 and DOB date ranges

You must have been a solid D student lol [/quote]
But I thought grade in school didnt exisr in club soccer.

When clearly it does
[/quote] Dude, saying typical grade means it doesn't exist.[/quote]
No that is called acknowledging that grade exists. They are relaying grade in school for groups so parents who have kids looking to play in college know which teams to engage with.[/quote]Great example of reading into something that doesn't exist again.

College coaches don't care what age group recruits play in, as told to clubs. So clubs can always set families straight on a case by case basis and tell them that playing up is skill based.[/quote]
Ignore it all uou want you're not going to change reality.

College coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school.[/quote]They recruit all eligible players, transfers, foreigners and HS graduating players. Which has nothing to do with what age or age group they played in as kids. As they told Eastside.[/quote]
Again Transfers and (over 19) Foreigners cannot play youth club soccer. So they are not germaine to this thread.[/quote]If you don't think they are germaine, you don't know college soccer recruiting.[/quote]
Ok if you want to think that way.

Youth club players by graduating year are one bucket, transfer players are another bucket, and foreign academy dropout players are a bucket.

College coaches will be taking the best available options from each bucket and comparing them against each other for potential roster spots.

This doesnt change anything for youth soccer players. Youth players are all put into the same graduating year pool. It doesnt matter if you're playing up, on grade, or down. However players are seriously disadvantaged by playing down because you're instantly worse than all other players in your graduating year pool.[/quote]Nothing new to add but you want to prolong your loss in trying to force August kids up an age group to make Sept kids the oldest.

There are no buckets; transfers, foreign players, and HS are competing against each other equally (meaning no group quotas). All evaluated evenly while playing differing levels of competition. College coaches evaluate the player not the team they play on.

Every player that is a senior in HS playing up an age group is not better than every HS senior player playing on age. Your statement has no justification, "players are seriously disadvantaged by playing down because you're instantly worse than all other players in your graduating year pool."

A player playing on age on a high level nationally ranked ECNL team is not always worse than a kid playing up on a below average NCSL team to match their grade in school to play with friends. Player skills are unrelated to the team they play on.

August kids can play where they want, get over it. It's over, top teams are set.
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This fall when you're proven wrong with all top team rosters being a single graduating year cant come soon enough.[/quote]

ECNL (at least on the boys side) has graduating class for each players on each team's page. It will be fun in the fall to show you how every single club (at the NL level) has kids from multiple grad years on each and every team (just like they do now. Weird). Assuming you stick around for that. I'm guessing once your daughter gets bumped down again you'll stop coming here. But who knows, you've been good at denying reality so far. [/quote]

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