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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]China and India alone have almost 3 billion citizens.

Chinese immigrants number about 2 million a year to the US.  Immigrants from India have about the same numbers.

These immigrants come here for education and better quality of life.  They are a tiny percentage of Asians but they are the most likely to be hardest working with some money and family connections.

I have a friend who came here from China as a child. We have children in the same grade and are close.  The rest of her extended family will not allow their children to be friends with American children.   They see Americans as lazy and a distraction.

It’s a different culture and with that amount of people the Asian population could easily fill MIT, Harvard, etc a thousand times over.  What are they supposed to do, especially if most of them go back to their country of origin?  [/quote]

I don’t understand the question…what are they supposed to do about what?

Why should we be sympathetic to the families that won’t assimilate?[/quote]

What are you talking about
They are the ones who assimilate to the American way and American dream - hardworking and competition

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No, the American way (which is what has made this country historically such a great place)…is that you are proud of your heritage but you are now an American and you want to embrace the country in its entirety (foibles and all).  If America evolved with just a bunch of ethnic cliques keeping to themselves, the country would have a much lower GDP and overall quality of life.

Help us really understand why you are immigrating here.  Someone posted a list of top engineering schools and 13/20 were in Asia, so no need to go to college in the US (in fact why would you?).  If you apparently hate the people and the system…help us understand.

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But the kids we are talking about are Asian AMERICAN. Their parents emigrated; they had no choice but to grow up here, become American and exist in this system. They are US citizens and can't just move back to a home country that they will never fit into.

All these hardworking, extremely intelligent asian Americans are supposed to be good soldiers and "take the hit" for American values -- they lose on both on Affirmative Action (wrong race) and on legacy admits( immigrant parents) to these elite schools. So many of these kids are the brightest ones in their high school, and they have to watch as other classmates are accepted while they are not. Of course they are going to get upset.[/quote]

Why are they getting upset they didn't win the lottery?  If they are so smart (as you claim) it should be obvious to them that most will NOT win the lottery and gain admission.  So yes, it's a nice dream to want to attend a T20 school, and it's great you strived for that for the last 12 years and did well enough to buy that lottery ticket, but that's all it is.  It's not a guarantee because 90-95% of kids will get rejected.  And the majority of those rejected were "qualified" and could have easily won the lottery.  Are they really not smart enough to know that?  Are they really not smart enough to recognize that they have every opportunity in the world in front of them and only themselves to blame if they do not take advantage of it?  DO they really think the only way to do this is at a T20 university?  If so, they are really wrong.  Plenty of really smart, motivated, dedicated people excel in life and attend basic universities, let alone a 25-50 ranked one.  These kids can still attend a top university, just not in the T20---they should be fine in life if they adjust their entitled attitude.

They also have a lot to learn about life---in the real world, the smartest person does not always get the promotions/highest pay raises.  Often that goes to the person who is very smart but also well connected, has the EQ factor (or what Harvard is calling likeability or the "it" factor) is a natural leader and works collaboratively with their team and can motivate them to do the most work.  It's a combination of much more than just raw intelligence.  And sometimes there is only 1 new position/promotion and 4-5 almost equally qualified people---hint, only 1 will get that promotion.  [/quote]

People get upset when they get racially discriminated. Colleges are not exceptions and the Supreme Court will stop that practice.[/quote]

A college ranking a kid as lower likeability in the puzzle that is college admissions is not racial discrimination.  That's a factor of interviews, essays, teacher recommendations, etc.  They will just rename the category---fact is there are plenty of white, black, latinos and other "racial categories" who also get this label, or get marked down in one of the categories, because 95% of the kids are not getting an admission offer.  So unless the only people getting this "ranking" are asian, difficult for it to really be Racially motivated.  
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