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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you think teaching is easy be a sub for one day in public American schools and you will be eaten alive as kids treat you like Jackie Robinson on his first game ever in MLB throwing trash and cussing you out as you lose your voice trying to talk over them.  Then your principal comes in and berates you for being terrible at your job and being stupid for not being able to control students.  It's horrible horrible horrible.  The helplessness and zero life control give teachers pstd.[/quote]

My job has meetings in the middle of the night occasionally. I survived.[/quote]

Given the choice, I’ll take middle-of-the-night meetings any day over teaching. You also mention they happen “occasionally,” whereas the stress/panic of teaching happens all day, every day. [/quote]

Except you’re not teaching all day, every day during the year, are you?  Look, I get it, teaching is hard and maybe you don’t like your career decision. That’s totally ok. But wild exaggerations like that don’t help. We all know your get massive amounts of time off. You’re up at night in the middle of July or on Christmas Eve with night terrors about something that happened at work that day?  That actually is some people’s reality. So let’s at least try to have some perspective. [/quote]

This is why DCUM is so toxic. Guess what? I go to therapy because of teaching. I have been for years. This job can be so abusive and can break the toughest of people. Also: I am always working. ALWAYS. If I’m not at work, I’m at home prepping for work. That’s on weekends. That’s over the summer.

You can tell me to gain perspective, and I’m going to ask the same of you. There’s a reason DCUM is filled with threads like this one. It’s because teaching is HARD, and it’s only those who haven’t tried it who think otherwise.

I am a career changer. I came from a tough corporate job. It was a breeze compared to what I do now.

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New to this thread, but man. Teachers really do think they have the hardest job in the world, don't they? Why does it always have to be crappy job Olympics? I haven't once seen a teacher say something like [b]"wow, that is not a problem we have to deal with!" or "gee that also sounds hard!"[/b]

It's like someone can say that their job is high-stress dangerous muck diving in sewage to re-weld old plumbing (a job which exists!), and a teacher will be like "well at least you have a muck diving suit! I accidentally touched poop with my bare hands once!!!!"[/quote]

Well considering we also have to deal with bathroom issues, at least in ES, this is a bad example. I think the reason you never see teachers say the bolded is because[b] our job is all encompassing. We are lawyers and doctors, we are managers and low level data entry employees, we are secretaries and diplomats (and plumbers)[/b]. Im curious what part of your jobs that you think are unique that teachers don't actually do![/quote]

NP. Look, I agree teaching is a hard job but it’s this kind of melodramatic exaggeration that makes people roll their eyes and then discredit any actual point you may be trying to make. [/quote]

I notice that you didn't actually address the point of my post. What is unique to other jobs that teachers do not do? [/quote]they don’t work summers[/quote]

You know you've lost the argument when you revert to coming at teachers unpaid summer time [/quote]

Thr time off in the summer IS THE ACTUAL win to the argument. It's the whole argument. Unpaid is irrelevant - just budget better. For most people in the workforce, The idea of having literal weeks, maybe even months of not working is an actual dream.  An unlivable dream. 
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Great news! You too can absolutely live your dream, buddy. Just quit your job, be unemployed for a few months, then find a new job! It's exactly the same! Just budget better so you can do this every year, I've heard it's not hard to do. Oh, but your old job is still going to make you do trainings. They aren't going to pay you, but you will still need to do them. You're also going to have to deal with idiots telling you that your "vacation" makes you super lucky and invalidates any complaints you may have.

Summers are not "time off" for teachers any more than any period of unemployment is time off. It's weird that you consider being unemployed a vacation.[/quote]

It's not exactly the same to become unemployed over the summer and then look for another job. Come on. Teachers have guaranteed positions and benefits that continue from year to year.  You [b]undercut legitimate complaints [/b]with a bogus comparison. [/quote]

Y'all real mad they pay us [i]at all[/i], huh? I guess you're right-- as long as we are paid [i]anything at all[/i], there are no valid or legitimate complaints. [/quote]

You are clearly not a teacher, because you can't read. If you are, well . . . . [/quote]

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