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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We have contemporaneous witness written account, we have written account of a witness to worshippers only a few decades later, not even a lifetime later, and we still have the same ethnic group in Syria practicing Christianity since the founding of that church was documented in the Gospels, as well as the lineage of patriarchs of the Syrian church - its on Wikipedia.  Not sure what the heck else would convince a devils advocate here[/quote]

I am glad this topic came up, though. It’s actually amazing, all the evidence there is. 
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I guess some people just blindly believe what they are told is “evidence”. 
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I don’t blindly believe anything in life. I have the ability to read and research and think. Why do you think everyone is blindly accepting and ignorant? You think every historian and scholar in the western world is blind, has the same wrong agenda, etc? Get over yourself. Where is your evidence they are all wrong? What are your qualifications to judge everyone wrong but you? [/quote]

Many people just believe what they what to believe. Or, for most Christians, just what they are told to believe. How many actually go examine “evidence”? Not many.

What % of these people also believe that he rose from the dead?

At most - for people who aren’t blinded by faith - they believe it’s “very likely” he existed. That’s just how it is without unbiased, contemporaneous evidence.

People don’t like uncertainty. That part of why we have religion in the first place - to explain the unknown. 
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None of your comment applies to 99.9% of the scholars, historians, and academics in the entire western world. [/quote]

Where do you pull the 99.9%?

Why just the western world? 
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[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=43mDuIN5-ww[/youtube][/quote]

He’s a religious studies guy. Not an unbiased historian.

Why just the western world? Does the evidence hold up to unbiased scrutiny? 
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There's no such thing as an "unbiased historian," and it's very hard to take seriously anyone who thinks there is.[/quote]

Someone who has been extremely immersed in religion will of course have biases.

Much more so than a historian without that background.

Can’t really get more immersed than him. [/quote]

No, historians with a religious background will have *different* biases than one without them. Historians without a strong background in religion very often get religious belief very wrong, because their own biases get in the way. This is far from universal, and it's more of a problem with pop history than academic historians, but it is the reality of it. You don't even have to get outside this thread to see it.[b] The whole "people believe because they're told to believe" thing is BS [/b]for huge numbers of believers (all of all faiths), but it makes sense to atheists so it gets repeated ad nauseam.[/quote]

What % of believers do you think actually research the historicity of Jesus and look at sources? 
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Relevance to the question?[/quote]

Because if they haven’t researched for themselves then they are just “believing what they're told to believe“. 
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I'm the PP who originally got asked what percentage off believers research the historical Jesus and I haven't really been motivated to answer the question because I don't believe you'll listen to my answer, but in my experience, it's virtually all of them.[/quote]

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