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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NO CHARGES.

seriously. They are not going to prosecute. [/quote]

Good. I'm not a gun person at all, but I just can't blame anyone for defending themselves when suddenly hit upside the head by a big schizophrenic man while holding their toddler. [/quote]

g*d d*mn you people just continue to miss the point. NOBODY says he didn't have the right to self defense.  What we are saying is that the right to self defense does NOT give you the right to shoot into a crowded Costco at the height of the Saturday shopping crowd, and kill bystanders, and endanger others.  This is why there should be no concealed carry.  The right to self defense =/= the right to endanger other people. [/quote]

NO—it is YOU who continues to miss the point.  Gun control is never going to happen if the dialogue is clouded by people like you who just screech hysterical lies.  No one will ever listen to sane gun control arguments because your bullshit is getting in the way.[/quote]

Ok so explain Justine Diamond, Philando Castile, Botham Jean to me.  All the same - hair trigger cops who should not have weapons.

Also exlain - do you think anyone has a right to fire their gun into a crowded Costco for self defense?

ALL descriptions of this incident hinge on the shooter being "panicked" and "disoriented."  Do you honestly think that's the kind of condition in which you should be shooting in a crowded Costco?

None of what I wrote is a lie. This is not a story of a law enforcement officer who calmly and expertly assessed this situation and did what he needed to do to protect the public. This is a story of a panicked, poorly trained man who NEVER should have had a gun.  Like many cops, sadly.  [/quote]

Ok, whatever, wave your hand around and talk in generalizations and deflect arguments you don’t like.  Keep being a hysterical liberal stereotype.  [/quote]

deflect what ... exactly? I'm talking in specifics, and not ignoring anything.  you're the one making ridiculous factual leaps (calling the parents "accomplices") and refusing to engage with the facts, or place any apparent limits on the right to self defense.  on the other hand, I'm looking at the actual facts and ALL the interests here -- while the ONLY viewpoint you are willing to consider is the scared cop.  I readily admit that getting hit sharply from behind while holding a child would make one scared and reactive.  My point is that being scared and reactive does NOT justify shooting into a crowd.  Especially if you are police officer, and should be able to assess the situation and not cause danger for others.  [/quote]

You sound just as dumb as Trump...yes your argument is PERFECT, you have perfectly considered everything in your perfect reasoning.  Everyone who doesn’t agree is SAD.

No one here has said they refuse to place limits on self defense.
This case is not the same as the other cases you mention.
Innocent bystanders in the crowd were not shot and killed.
I didn’t call the parents accomplices, but, they also weren’t uninvolved.[/quote]

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